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Omega Seamaster Deville - Update 18K Dial 166.020

  1. Dennis88

    Dennis88 Dec 20, 2017

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    Am asked to make an offer on this, but am torn. First intuition was redial, and the bracelet obviously had its best years.

    Am not really well versed on these (if at all), any suggestions what would be a fair price to offer, or should I avoid this one?

    Thanks,

    Dennis
     
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  2. efauser

    efauser I ♥ karma!!! Dec 20, 2017

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    Could you provide a straight on photo of the dial? While you're at it, a photo of the movement and inside the case back would be helpful, also.
     
  3. BenBagbag

    BenBagbag Dec 20, 2017

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    It's probably not a redial. Better pictures will help confirm. These are pretty affordable. Gold cap less desirable. Bracelet shouldn't be factored into price if you don't like it. What is asking or you totally can throw out a number?
     
  4. Dennis88

    Dennis88 Dec 20, 2017

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    He won't send me a shot of the movement as he doesn't want/know how to open it up. Trying to get a straight on shot of the dial.

    I can throw out a number, as long as it is fair, he's got another guy that actually deals in watches so any lowball offer will be quickly refused.
     
  5. Noddyman

    Noddyman Dec 20, 2017

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    Is it gold cap or solid gold?
    Better photos would help before we can make an accurate call on the dial.
    If genuine I suspect that dial could well be 18k gold.
     
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  6. Passover

    Passover Dec 20, 2017

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    At least the hands don't match the dial (tips are lumed)

    T-bar of Seamaster is not horizonal, crown is not OK IMO

    I would be doubtful...
     
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  7. AnotherDon

    AnotherDon Dec 20, 2017

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    Not necessarily. You think that that guy that deals in watches won't give him a lowball number? Dealers don't stay in business by paying retail for their inventory. If I wanted the watch, I'd offer on the low end and then let him respond. Plus, the number that you believe is lowball may still be greater than the dealer's wholesale offer. If you don't ask, you don't get.

    :thumbsup:
     
  8. Dennis88

    Dennis88 Dec 20, 2017

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    Not much better but a little more straight on
     
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  9. Passover

    Passover Dec 20, 2017

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    Not shure about the T-bar on this pic but still the hands don't match the dial...
     
  10. Noddyman

    Noddyman Dec 20, 2017

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    It will be interesting to see better pics on this one as I am still unsure.
    Here’s mine with the same Seamaster font.
     
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  11. Noddyman

    Noddyman Dec 20, 2017

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    Yes agree the hands are wrong. Crown is also incorrect.
     
  12. Dennis88

    Dennis88 Dec 20, 2017

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    Another photo
     
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  13. Noddyman

    Noddyman Dec 20, 2017

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    The dial looks good to me.
    Is the case all gold?
     
  14. Passover

    Passover Dec 20, 2017

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    On this pic dial is OK IMO...
     
  15. Dennis88

    Dennis88 Dec 20, 2017

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    The case is gold (tested). Any idea what I can offer to be ok?
     
  16. Passover

    Passover Dec 20, 2017

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    Gold plated or solid gold?

    How about the technical condition, is it serviced?

    If it is important for you the watch to be original you have to replace the crown and the hands.

    If it has to be serviced you have to add some 250€ plus hands and crown would be 350€ (these are only estimates)
     
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  17. Noddyman

    Noddyman Dec 20, 2017

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    I would want to see more photos of the caseback and movement if I was buying.
    However as a ballpark figure (assuming 18k gold case) I wouldn’t want to go much higher than £1k.
    You need to allow for replacing the hands, crown, maybe crystal and possibly a full service.
    That’s just my budget others may have a different view on value.
     
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  18. Dennis88

    Dennis88 Dec 20, 2017

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    Solid gold. Fairly certain 18k but it would only test 100% at 14K. Not serviced, no service history. We're both in the coin business, I think this came as part of a deal he got at some point, so who knows where it came from.
     
  19. Passover

    Passover Dec 20, 2017

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    Being more into "Stainless Steel" I can't say a certain price but just be aware that there could be / will be expenses to complete this project
     
  20. Noddyman

    Noddyman Dec 20, 2017

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    I don’t think these came in 14k only 18k as far as I know.
    That dial could well be 18k also but again you would need to see the back of it to be sure.