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Omega Seamaster De Ville 14905 SC-62 (correction!) (no longer 165.0020) Parts Info

  1. VintageOmegaLove

    VintageOmegaLove Jan 27, 2019

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    A very good afternoon to all the members at Omega Forum!

    I would firstly like to say a big thank you to the admins of Omega Forum for approving my membership. Secondly, I would like to say a big thank you to the forum members who provide input on this thread; I really appreciate your help!

    With that out of the way, I am looking for some help on sourcing the correct parts for my Omega Seamaster De Ville.

    I have done a quick search here (and around the web) without much success on finding the information that I need so I am now turning to you experts! I have recently acquired an Omega Seamaster De Ville, stainless steel, dateless, calibre 552. I have not been able to open up the watch but using the process of elimination with the info available, I am very sure the case reference is 165.0020.

    The problem I have with this watch is that it has the wrong:
    1. crown and
    2. seconds-hand (may just consider replacing all hands) as well as
    3. a non-original replacement crystal, installed.

    I am now looking to source these original Omega parts to replace these but I do not know the part numbers for each item so it’s rather difficult to find the correct ones for this specific model.

    I have attached some photos below.

    If anybody here has any advice or information, I would greatly appreciate it if you could chime in below.

    Once again, thank you all for your help!
    Chris

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  2. ChrisN

    ChrisN Jan 27, 2019

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    Welcome.

    Looks a nice watch to me:thumbsup:

    The first thing you need is to confirm the case reference and the only way to be sure is to have the watch opened - choose a watchmaker and have them do it. The best for you is that your watchmaker supplies the parts but, it depends on the relationship you have with them. I don't usually accept parts from a customer just in case they are faulty - then you could get into an argument about why it's faulty or if it was damaged and who did that damage. You can see that would lead to issues but others may accept parts anyway.

    Good luck, Chris
     
  3. VintageOmegaLove

    VintageOmegaLove Jan 30, 2019

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    :thumbsdown:
    Thanks Chris! It is one of my “grail” watches. However, there must be something wrong with the movement. Despite moving fine and keeping excellent time, it produces this nasty grinding-feeling when you manually wind! So I’ve avoided doing this.

    Just as you have suggested, I will actually be taking my watch to Michael Young in Hong Kong tomorrow since I am travelling that way. If it wasn’t for the replacement crystal, I would be able to have access to the movement :( either way, the movement deserves a good service.

    And thanks for the advice and quick reply! I really appreciate it. :D

    Have a great day,
    Chris (I feel like I’m writing a message to myself)
     
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  4. Chewbakkka

    Chewbakkka Jan 31, 2019

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    If it is case reference 165.0020, then you need crown ST43041 and glass PZ5072

    I can help you with the crystal, but don't have the crown and second hand.
     
  5. Archer

    Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Feb 9, 2019

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    For case reference 1650020, the current replacement parts are:

    Crystal - 063PZ5072
    Crown - 069ST42531
    H/M hands - 065TZ1210
    Seconds hand - 066UZ1377

    Cheers, Al
     
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  6. VintageOmegaLove

    VintageOmegaLove Feb 11, 2019

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    Thank you both for your replies! Michael has just been able to take my watch apart and has taken a photo of the caseback. Looks like I was wrong and it’s an Omega 14905 SC-62.

    He says he has found an original crown for me, so now I’ll just be looking for the correct seconds hand and crystal. Would the seconds-hand part no. still be 066UZ1377? I would also probably replace the H/M hands too, so it doesn’t look as odd.

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    Thanks again!
    Chris
     
  7. Chewbakkka

    Chewbakkka Feb 11, 2019

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    You still need PZ5072 crystal, 066UZ1377 SS seconds and 065TZ1210 hour & minute hands (SS with black infill)
     
  8. Archer

    Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Feb 11, 2019

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    For that case with DeVille dial, the current hands listed are:

    H/M - 065TZ8189

    Seconds - 066UZ1371

    Cheers, Al
     
  9. Chewbakkka

    Chewbakkka Feb 11, 2019

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    Where do you find this info? I always look on cousins using the case reference. What would be the diference for example between 066UZ1371 and 066UZ1377?
     
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  10. Archer

    Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Feb 11, 2019

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    The Omega Extranet...
     
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  11. VintageOmegaLove

    VintageOmegaLove Mar 4, 2019

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    Just an update to those who have commented!

    The watch is finally back in my hands! Service went alright with no serious damage to the movement. It was brought in at around 1sec slower over 24h but came back running 5/6 secs slower. Having said that, I’m just happy the internals are running smooth again.

    Didn’t have time to change the hands yet, but I will get to that soon.

    The correct crown has replaced the other, random Omega crown. It already looks so much better!

    I’ve also switched out the ‘beads of rice’ for a brown, crocodile leather Omega strap. It really compliments the cream Patina on the dial. :thumbsup:::love::

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    Thanks again for all your input, and I might get in touch with you with some parts!

    Chris
     
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  12. Edward53

    Edward53 Mar 5, 2019

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    You might find it settles down to better timekeeping after being worn for a few days. That said, anything under 10 sec is generally considered acceptable for a 552.
     
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  13. VintageOmegaLove

    VintageOmegaLove Mar 12, 2019

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    Hi again all (I hope this thread is still alive, haha).

    I have decided to just replace all the hands on the watch as it would look extremely out of place with a new, shiny second hand. However, I am having some difficulty finding the correct hands that I need: H/M - 065TZ8189, Seconds - 066UZ1371 (thanks Archer for the part no.!). And according to Ofrei, the silver baton luminous H+M hands have been discontinued :(

    I am now reaching out to you guys to see if anyone can help me out here in sourcing the correct hands for the Seamaster De Ville 14905 SC-62, Cal. 552 :D

    Hope to hear from you guys soon!

    Cheers,
    Chris
     
  14. VintageOmegaLove

    VintageOmegaLove Mar 12, 2019

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    That's reassuring to hear! I hope that's in my case too!
     
  15. Archer

    Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Mar 12, 2019

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    They are not discontinued - Otto Frei isn't able to get them from Omega, but Omega still makes and sells these to watchmakers who have access to parts. Your best bet is to send the watch to a watchmaker with a parts account, or keep looking for other suppliers that can fill your order.
     
  16. VintageOmegaLove

    VintageOmegaLove Mar 14, 2019

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    Oh I see! I quickly went around Munich, going to the few vintage watch shops/watchmakers that I could find on Google to ask if they could help or if they had parts - not very successful. Not knowing the language makes it slightly harder :confused:

    Thanks again for the advice though!

    Best,
    Chris