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  1. TPD1 Jan 24, 2012

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    Hello this is my first post. I am 20 years old and have been interested in watches since I was a child. I am now looking to start collecting a few vintage timepieces. I don't have a lot of knowledge of what I should be looking for but I have today put in a bid on ebay for a vintage Omega Seamaster Cosmic that I like the look of. I was hoping that someone would be able to tell me if this is the genuine deal? I realise this is refurbished but I was wondering if it has all been done correctly? Everything looks good with the case but after doing some searching I cannot verify if this is a genuine face for this model. The Serial number indicates its a 1967 model. I can find many pictures of this model but none of them I can see have the same face with triangular marks. It is advertised by a seller in Singapore who seems to specialise in refurbished watches. The pictures are attached. Any help or comments anyone can give me would be much appreciated. Thanks Tom.

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  2. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 24, 2012

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    Attachments didn't seem to work not sure why though... site seems to be working correctly

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  3. Trev The Architect Staff Member Jan 24, 2012

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    Hey TPD1

    I've fixed your images for you. Although they had the .jpg extension, they were actually TIFF format images ;)

    Cheers
     
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  4. ulackfocus Jan 24, 2012

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    That's not a correct 135.017 - the dial has been refinished in what we call "Ranchero" or "Railmaster" style. This is typical of refinished dials on 50's and 60's Omegas. The sellers hope to snag a n00b who doesn't know better. Good thing you asked before buying it. That watch should have a white dial with crosshairs (lines running from 3 to 9 and 12 to 6). Beware of all black dialed vintage Omegas because they're usually repainted. You've got the right idea though: post a few pics and we'll help you sift out the nuggets from the grime.

    I will say this - it's a pretty damn good refinishing job. The fonts look really close.
     
  5. TPD1 Jan 25, 2012

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    Many thanks to you both for your help and responses. You have saved me from making a bad purchasing decision! I did have my suspicions when I couldn't find the exact face on the Omega Database (http://www.omegawatches.com/spirit/history/vintage-omegas/). I will keep looking and hope to be a fellow Omega owner soon! Thanks again.
     
  6. ulackfocus Jan 25, 2012

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    Keep the pics coming. We'll help you get a good one.
     
  7. seamonster Respectable Member Jan 27, 2012

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    Respectable Member ulackfocus


    I do not understand as to why some dealers/sellers, selling a refinished or reconditioned dial watch, does not state specifically about the status of the dial. I consider this, UNETHICAL and a CHEAT! If you were to ask them, the most common answer will be, 'I do not know'. When a dealer says that, always assume he is being dishonest and run miles away.

    Thank you.
     
  8. ulackfocus Jan 27, 2012

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    You eventually learn to look for what they don't say more than what they do. Some sellers even think "original dial" means just the slab of metal and not the finish that came from the factory. It's splitting hairs and technically they aren't lying, but collectors have a different view. That's why forums exist - helping out n00bs and sharing information. What you can learn in just a couple years used to take a couple decades or more.
     
  9. total n00b Feb 1, 2012

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    Hi all,
    I too am new here, first post and all..
    I found this thread while googleing straps for a cosmic and was surprised to see these photos, as I purchased this watch here in Singapore a few days ago. First off, thank you to the knowledgeable members of this forum for being so forthcoming with information and welcoming to the OP, its a quality that many forums seem to be missing these days, and to the OP for posing a question that I also was wondering about. I'm not so fussed that the watch isn't original, I am not a collector, I kind of prefer the dark face and just got it because I thought it looked cool, fortunately at a pretty low price given my lack of knowledge. What I was wondering is are there after market straps for this watch with curved ends that will properly fit this watch? Please feel free to suggest any other thoughts or info you may have, straps or otherwise, for some reason I find this watch kind of interesting. If anyone cares, the only things I can fault are that the the 6 o'clock triangle is very slightly misshaped (not exactly straight at the bottom, almost obscuring the "swiss made") and it gains about a minute per day. One last n00b question, am I correct in assuming strong magnetic fields would be bad for a watch like this?
    Once again thank you all, Anthony
     
  10. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Feb 1, 2012

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    Hirsch make some quality straps, the case style may make a curved end strap problematic, might be possible though.
     
  11. j.allen Mar 1, 2017

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    Many sellers don't even know about refinishing. Their grandpa give them their old watch and they try to make $500 by selling it.

    I have an old Tissot from the 60's with this "Ranchero" style finish which I wear once every couple of months. People actually stop me and comment on how nice of a watch it is. Go figure.