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OMEGA Seamaster Calendar ref 2849

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Hi Omega Forum,

i bought a Omega Seamaster Calendar Reference 2849 caliber 503, i want to know more about this particular model i just purchase? Is it all original ? (will attach pictures down below)

So basicly i paid $640 include shipping, i want to know if it worth it too ? And , what is the value of the watch considering is condition.

The case is a Rose Gold and Steel, i dont know if it's plated or capped ?

By the way, my english is not perfect so sorry for that !

Thanks a lot for your time 馃榾
 
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seekingseaquest
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Unfortunately the dial has been re-painted, so this was not a good deal. Crown is incorrect as well. Value is probably in parts, at least to a collector, so probably a few hundred.
 
bardamu
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Agree with the above. Can you return it to the seller?
 
dmtowl
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Looks plated to me, and indeed not a good deal at all if you care about originality.
 
MtV
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50s SM will be capped, not plated. But most of all: redial :/
 
DON
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dmtowl dmtowl
Looks plated to me, and indeed not a good deal at all if you care about originality.

If you note. Top is gold colored while back of lugs is s/s. Ergo - gold capped

Learn about gold plate, gold filled and gold capped

DON
 
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DON DON
If you note. Top is gold colored while back of lugs is s/s. Ergo - gold capped

Learn about gold plate, gold filled and gold capped

DON
Thank you for the correction, will learn more about it.

Cheers!
 
RolexGuyYH
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So i just contact the seller and tell him to take it back because the dial was not orignal

Thanks a lot 馃榾
 
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RolexGuyYH RolexGuyYH
Hi Omega Forum,

i bought a Omega Seamaster Calendar Reference 2849 caliber 503, i want to know more about this particular model i just purchase? Is it all original ? (will attach pictures down below)

So basicly i paid $640 include shipping, i want to know if it worth it too ? And , what is the value of the watch considering is condition.

Value is an odd concept - to experienced collectors the value will be low, but to a lot of others who appreciate the watch for the design, bright dial and other aesthetic points, it will be more valuable. I am sure you are not the only one who would think of paying $640 for it.
 
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ConElPueblo ConElPueblo
Value is an odd concept - to experienced collectors the value will be low, but to a lot of others who appreciate the watch for the design, bright dial and other aesthetic points, it will be more valuable. I am sure you are not the only one who would think of paying $640 for it.
Hi,

i was wondering, how can we tell its redial, because the seller is telling me that is 100% authentic and original ?

Thanks a lot 馃榾
 
MtV
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Just by looking at the thickness of the font, for example. It鈥檚 not delicate - it looks like it was drawn with a sharpie.

Compare (I hope @seekingseaquest doesn鈥檛 mind me using his former example):

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ConElPueblo
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RolexGuyYH RolexGuyYH
Hi,

i was wondering, how can we tell its redial, because the seller is telling me that is 100% authentic and original ?

Thanks a lot 馃榾

Compare the fonts, especially "Omega Automatic" and "Swiss Made" to a correct specimen and you will see a lot of differences. Also, the stark white dial is always a bad sign - the clearly redone lume plots too.
 
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RolexGuyYH RolexGuyYH
https://www.omegawatches.com/en-gb/watch-omega-seamaster-calendar-ck-2849

in the link from OMEGA watch, your style of Seamaster writing is very different from both

Hi.

There were many different variations of the Seamaster inscription over many decades.

The foto of the Omega database is also correct but be aware that there are quite some mistakes to be found in Omega's own vintage database.

There are experts in this forum who are far more knowledgeable than Omega people themselves about their vintage pieces.

To illustrate another point of the repainted dial, or as we call "redial" of your watch, pay attention to how floppy the minute markers are when they overlap with the hour indices:

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If you can send the watch back, do it and tell the seller he is wrong. This is a redial.

Best,

Rudi
 
padders
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RolexGuyYH RolexGuyYH
https://www.omegawatches.com/en-gb/watch-omega-seamaster-calendar-ck-2849

in the link from OMEGA watch, your style of Seamaster writing is very different from both
Firstly there are several forms of font used on 1950s Seamasters, including rounded and coat hanger S shapes, secondly, you can't treat the Vintage database as gospel. There are dozens (hundreds?) of omissions and in some cases there are photos of redials (though not in the case of the watch you show).

Your watch is a redial. Not a bad one but not one that will appeal to collectors with experience.

Oh and I really don't like that medallion, it is very rough cast compared to what I would expect and I wonder if it has either seen a lot of wear or may even be a fake. Probably just a lot of wear.

EDIT cross post with above, most of which says what I do!
Edited:
 
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ConElPueblo ConElPueblo
Value is an odd concept - to experienced collectors the value will be low, but to a lot of others who appreciate the watch for the design, bright dial and other aesthetic points, it will be more valuable. I am sure you are not the only one who would think of paying $640 for it.

100% agree. Not everyone looks at watches from a collector viewpoint. I'm reasonably sure there are many on here that don't like patina, signs of wear and don't care overly about originality.

Speaking personally my preference is for watches that appeal to my personal aesthetic over originality. Patina, especially degraded dials and cases don't float my boat.

That having been said, and whatever the opinions of the "value", the considered opinion of the experts is that the dial is not original, so if you were induced to buy it by the promise it was 100% original, you have every right to return it for a refund.

Whether you do so is up to you.
 
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The "Seamaster" and "Calendar" inscriptions aren't even aligned. I would send that back into the seller's face with a slingshot.
 
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padders padders
Firstly there are several forms of font used on 1950s Seamasters, including rounded and coat hanger S shapes, secondly, you can't treat the Vintage database as gospel. There are dozens (hundreds?) of omissions and in some cases there are photos of redials (though not in the case of the watch you show).

Your watch is a redial. Not a bad one but not one that will appeal to collectors with experience.

Oh and I really don't like that medallion, it is very rough cast compared to what I would expect and I wonder if it has either seen a lot of wear or may even be a fake. Probably just a lot of wear.

EDIT cross post with above, most of which says what I do!

I was having the same feeling about that medallion.. how can it get to look like this?
 
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PlainVanilla PlainVanilla
The "Seamaster" and "Calendar" inscriptions aren't even aligned. I would send that back into the seller's face with a slingshot.
I have an absolutely original 50s dial where the "Seamaster" was overprinted and crooked. It can happen. They didn't apparently inspect as closely as they do today or have the precision we can get today.
 
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