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  1. Oku Feb 13, 2017

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    Hello together!

    I like the old Seamasters with cal. 321 very much but I am always confused about the arrows in the tachymetre scale. I have found different executions. Can somebody educate me which kind of arrow is correct? Or is it just a matter of the production year? I have found arrows with fine "feathers", thick feathers or just a block as it can be seen in the collage attached. Are some of them just redials?
    Thank you very much in advance!
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  2. Oku Feb 15, 2017

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    Nobody out there who can help?
    I have this Seamaster in mind:
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    What do you think of the dial? Is it original?

    Sorry, until now no other photos...
     
  3. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Feb 15, 2017

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    What is the reference. Compare to others online
     
  4. Oku Feb 15, 2017

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    That is the problem. Seller is a little bit away and does not know very much about the watch (even if it is a 321! But this I am pretty convinced of). If I search for other Seamasters, I find very different executions like in the examples above. That's why I ask here because I thought that some people here may have the same model and can give advice.
     
  5. marco Feb 15, 2017

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    This is a 320 movement . It looks to me as though wasn't he arrow was 20160711_155816.jpg dependant on the year and who was setting the dial up for printing.
    I am no expert but yours looks ok.
     
  6. Baz9614 Feb 15, 2017

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    I have a cal 320 ref 2278-3, which has a feathered tail. With that said, I know very little about these early chronographs, but when I google the reference, I get several different dial variations?
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  7. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Feb 15, 2017

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    The dial has concentric circles which is good. Fonts appear original. You need the pic to include the "Swiss Made" at the 6
     
  8. jimmyd13 Feb 16, 2017

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    Ive read an article on this some time ago. The problem is, of course, I can't remember where. I have just searched through Chuck Maddox' articles thinking that might have been the place, but no joy.

    All I remember from the article (because these aren't really an area of interest to me, I was just reading round the subject of redials), is that there were four examples - all those with the "feathers" were genuine while one example with a blocked out tail was shown to be a redial. I know that doesn't help much but perhaps knowing the article is out there, you might be able to find it. (BTW, just for what it's worth - that example looks good to my poor eyes).
     
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  9. Speedmasterfan88 Feb 16, 2017

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    Here is a snap of my early KO2907 with 321 if that helps... quite "fat" fond on the feathers.

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  10. Oku Feb 16, 2017

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    First of all, thank's so much to all of you!

    Yes, that is exactly what I think. There are several variations. My guess is that the shape of the arrow depends on the year. That makes it difficult to me. Your photo is great, I think the arrows are the same.

    Exactly. That is what I have in mind. blocked arrow: repaint, feathers: original. But I am not sure if I read it or if it was just my imagination.

    The seller is killing me with his bad photos... I asked for good highres photos. But I get photos out of focus, overexposed, low res.
    However, the swiss at the bottom appears. Seems correct to me.
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  11. Oku Feb 16, 2017

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    I forgot yours. Shape is different, but interesting that the font is quite fat on the tachymetre scale. Quite similar to the one I have in mind. Thanks.
     
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  12. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Feb 16, 2017

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    A TT dial. Could be a 105.001,2,5 variant?
     
  13. Oku Feb 17, 2017

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  14. Oku Mar 24, 2017

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    it took some time, but finally it arrived.
    Thanks to everyone who helped!

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  15. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Mar 24, 2017

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    Congrats!!
     
  16. Interstellar Mar 25, 2017

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    Nice one! Thanks, I learnt something from your thread OP!
     
  17. Speedmasterfan88 Mar 25, 2017

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    Sweet!
     
  18. watchyouwant ΩF Clairvoyant Mar 25, 2017

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    the only thing, that troubles me here, is that the Seamaster does not seem to be centered...... picture angle ? kind regards. achim
     
  19. Oku Mar 25, 2017

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    You are right. The S is closer to the subdial than the r. I think it is due to the sublime?
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    Or do you think it is a redial?
     
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  20. Oku Mar 27, 2017

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    Update: I finally opened the caseback. It is a 145.005 67. Serial dates it to 1967. Movement 321 was never touched 321 by a watchmaker.
    What would be the correct watch box for it?
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    Or another one? There are so many on the market...
    Thanks in advance!