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Omega seamaster 300m or..?

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I am a proud owner of the 2254.50 Peter Blake but when I saw the new seamaster 300m come out (the no date version with the aluminium bezel )
I got the itch again. I like the thought of buying watches that will easily outlast me or any future generations.. maybe more of an emotional reasoning than something else non the less I saw that the omega has a 8806 calibre and I am a bit worried about the long term serviceability and parts availability from anyone but omega , is that worry justified ? I am also eyeing a Tudor fxd and Rolex explorer 16570 while I think the omega is technically superior to the Tudor and probably as well compared with the explorer (older movement) at least the Rolex movement is a proven and relatively easy to service movement and reading the posts i think the Tudor might also be easier to service than the omega or am I totally wrong here?
 
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Tudor might also be easier to service than the omega or am I totally wrong
I'm told Tudor swaps their movements with a refurbished one when you send it in for service so that would be a no for me compared to the Omega seamaster with the cal. 8806.
 
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I'm told Tudor swaps their movements with a refurbished one when you send it in for service so that would be a no for me compared to the Omega seamaster with the cal. 8806.
If that is true then it would become an automatic no for me as it loses it’s charm somewhat , would be strange though as a Rolex owned brand you would expect more or less the same processes
 
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If that is true then it would become an automatic no for me as it loses it’s charm somewhat , would be strange though as a Rolex owned brand you would expect more or less the same processes
Read this post:

https://omegaforums.net/posts/2130956/ Archer
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How's Tudor's service turn around on their current in house movements?

I would hope it's better, as they swap the movements out, rather than servicing them at each service center.
 
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It all comes down to personal taste really. If you like the new no date SMP 300M, then go for it. If you want a Tudor fxd or Rolex explorer 16570, then go for one of those. Whatever your heart desires go for it. For me there is no substitute, the SMP 300M was what I wanted. When I tried on the Summer Blue, I knew right away that was my watch! My friend helped me get a good deal on an brand new grey import and I couldn't be happier with it.
 
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I think there are enough Omega qualified watch techs out there that servicing in the long term isn't likely to be an issue even with the slightly more complex co-ax movement. I don't buy my watches based on the future for the most part. I try to just enjoy the experience with the watch.
 
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I think it's true that many of the co-axial movements are not very old, so it's a little hard to know about long term reliability... but the fact is, Omega produces enough of these that it will work just like older Omegas, independent watchmakers will be able to get parts from parted out watches through their networks, and the Omega certified people can get parts from Omega. You shouldn't worry about that, I don't think. And it's just my opinion, but Omega over Tudor every time.
 
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Omega has a stellar reputation for providing parts for movements and watches that went out of production a long time ago. I would not worry about the long term viability of the 880X movement.
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Thanks all , your replies and some additional research sways me more towards omega than the Tudor . Rolex is still in play but the explorer is a different watch all together I’m more of a diver type of guy but the look (40mm instead of the newer 42 ) draws me in however that bezel seems like it’s so prone to show scratches and even though the new omega has a aluminium bezel I might favor that more , don’t get me wrong I don’t baby watches so eventually they will get scratched up but still
 
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If it helps, I dropped my Diver 300M with the cal 8800 on tile from about four feet, and it’s still running great. I thought it was destroyed but these watches are built tough.

Only issue I’ve had with it was the date stopped turning a couple years in (despite being vigilant with the 9-3 no date change). Easy fix under warranty.

Tudor is a nice watch too, but Omega is in a different league.
 
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If it helps, I dropped my Diver 300M with the cal 8800 on tile from about four feet, and it’s still running great. I thought it was destroyed but these watches are built tough.

Only issue I’ve had with it was the date stopped turning a couple years in (despite being vigilant with the 9-3 no date change). Easy fix under warranty.
I would have had an heart attack if I had dropped my Summer Blue onto tile. But yeah, the SMP 300M Diver is made to take abuse, as the Cal 8800 is said to be a very rugged and robust movements. The METAS certification said that it can even withstand the magnetic field of an MRI, I don't even want to place a fridge magnet on the back of my Summer Blue for fear of damaging the movement.

YVR785 YVR785
Tudor is a nice watch too, but Omega is in a different league.
Tudor is for the younger generation who are starting the watch collecting hobby as the design is more tailor for the young. While Rolex is more for the seasoned watch collector or flippers looking to make more money
 
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If it helps, I dropped my Diver 300M with the cal 8800 on tile from about four feet, and it’s still running great. I thought it was destroyed but these watches are built tough.

Only issue I’ve had with it was the date stopped turning a couple years in (despite being vigilant with the 9-3 no date change). Easy fix under warranty.

Tudor is a nice watch too, but Omega is in a different league.
I did the same with my 2250.50 still running 😂
 
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I have a newer Diver 300 and a Tudor Black bay chrono in the collection. The Tudor is a cross between the SMP and a Speedmaster. But I enjoy them all.
 
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Being totally honest, future generations will probably appreciate a Rolex more.
 
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Why? Because they are all spoiled brats?
Because Rolex is the only watch brand most people are familiar with. If they inherit an old Omega, they will appreciate it for sentimental reasons, but if they get a Rolex, there will be a different level of excitement because they will think it's a big deal.

Rolex marketing isn't just better than other brands, it's in a different stratosphere. I don't even think about this when buying a watch for myself, and I personally love obscure brands. But if I were buying a watch as a potential future heirloom, I probably wouldn't consider anything other than a Rolex.
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Because Rolex is the only watch brand most people are familiar with. If they inherit an old Omega, they will appreciate it for sentimental reasons, but if they get a Rolex, there will be a different level of excitement because they will think it's a big deal.

Rolex marketing isn't just better than other brands, it's in a different stratosphere. I don't even think about this when buying a watch for myself, and I personally love obscure brands. But if I were buying a watch as a potential future heirloom, I probably wouldn't consider anything other than a Rolex.
I agree with this. Rolexes were relatively attainable back in the day (up to 20 years ago). While expensive, anyone with a decent job could retire, buy one and have a future heirloom for the family.

It’s a different story today. A Submariner in Canada runs you $15k after tax. This is preposterous. You can’t even buy one at retail (that’s the real kicker). Omegas aren’t much better at MSRP, slowly climbing the “unattainable” ladder too.

Maybe I’m just rambling, but I suspect less heirloom pieces going forward and more “gramps had a Rolex but it turns out it was fake” realizations.
 
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I'd agree with the sentiment of going for what you like the most. Personally, the no-date SMP is a stunning watch, especially on the mesh. But, the Explorer II is also nice if you want to go for something different. I'd also put Omega over Tudor, so I'd still go SMP, with the Explorer II as a close second.
 
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Because Rolex is the only watch brand most people are familiar with. If they inherit an old Omega, they will appreciate it for sentimental reasons, but if they get a Rolex, there will be a different level of excitement because they will think it's a big deal.

Rolex marketing isn't just better than other brands, it's in a different stratosphere. I don't even think about this when buying a watch for myself, and I personally love obscure brands. But if I were buying a watch as a potential future heirloom, I probably wouldn't consider anything other than a Rolex.
 
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