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Omega Seamaster 300 166.0324 should i? Or better a PO 2500

  1. bikehomero

    bikehomero Apr 30, 2018

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    Hi, just got this nice watch offered. It seems it is serviced so the Ref. changed to 166.0324. For me everything looks very well, what do you think?

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    Best regrads

    Jürgen
     
  2. padders

    padders Apr 30, 2018

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    Looks like a Watchco. New parts with an old movement. They are as good or as bad as whoever put it together and serviced it.
     
  3. bikehomero

    bikehomero Apr 30, 2018

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    So it's a frankenwatch?
     
  4. OWa

    OWa Apr 30, 2018

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    Not exactly. Those types generally use a vintage movement an new service replacement parts. The movement is not from a Seamaster 300 most of the time. The color of the hands do not match the dial on the one you posted. You can get those with matching colors. You should ensure that the movement has been serviced recently.
     
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  5. tikkathree

    tikkathree Apr 30, 2018

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    I think I have no idea about its authenticity but I think it's a pretty thing and would tick boxes for wrist candy sex appeal.
     
  6. padders

    padders Apr 30, 2018

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    Yes I would agree with this, though in my experience often the hands and dial don't match very well, even though both use Superluminova. Not really a Franken but not quite the genuine article either since there are significant differences. They routinely fetch £2,500-3,000 these days as there is demand for a usable classic diver and a good one is lovely thing to wear I am sure. Just not quite the real deal!
     
  7. bikehomero

    bikehomero Apr 30, 2018

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    Aren't the 166.0324 cases made for service reasons firstly? Offer is in your range at € 2950,00. Real old ones are offered from €5000,00 to € 12000,00 ad the Tritium looks bad mostly.
     
  8. Archer

    Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker May 1, 2018

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    Maybe, maybe not - the only way to tell is to know if the movement came from a SM300. This would require an Extract of the Archives.

    If the movement was from a SM300 originally, this could be a watch that was sent to Omega to be completely refurbished, and if so would be a "legit" but not particularly desirable SM300 for a vintage collector.

    If the movement is from some other watch originally, then yes it's a frankenwatch. Despite the watch not being necessarily legit, they are valued quite well and a nice watch to own - I wear one as my beater watch.

    Cheers, Al
     
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  9. bikehomero

    bikehomero May 1, 2018

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    Had some contacts with the seller.

    * He bougt it by himself as refurbished, but there are no papers for this.
    * He is not able to send me a better frontal fotos, so i think the bezel isn't mounted 100% correct.
    * He is not able to send me a foto of the movement number.
    * Different lume ist visible.
    * Invite me to look personal to the watch, but this are about 1000km...

    I don't think to buy this watch. Thank you very much for your advise!
     
  10. bikehomero

    bikehomero May 3, 2018

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    New notice from seller :) some more fotos from movement and frontal.

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  11. padders

    padders May 3, 2018

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    Uhuh. It is still Watchco. Every single thing is new bar the movement. What more do you need to know?
     
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  12. RawArcher

    RawArcher Measures thread drift on the Richter Scale May 3, 2018

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    This is not even a good Watchco in my opinion. Hands lume don’t appear to match the dial. For $3k you can do better.
     
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  13. bikehomero

    bikehomero May 3, 2018

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    Just like to let you know i received an answer together with some requested fotos. So some of my points are no more true.
     
  14. Archer

    Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker May 3, 2018

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    That's very common with these, and those are "as supplied" by Omega so not really a strike against the watch IMO.
     
  15. bikehomero

    bikehomero May 5, 2018

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    Got a new offer today. It's a dealer, one year warranty and directly named as a Watchco. Price below € 3000,00, but without 1171 bracelet. What do you think about?

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    From german forum i've got an offer of a Planet Ocean 2500 in a fullset, including a second bracelet ans the wooden box at about € 2800,00 as well. I Like the PO 2500 very much as well, but i think mainly becase its old-style borrowings to the old SM's. Sooner or later i will buy both. The question is, what is the first thing? I don't konow...
     
  16. bikehomero

    bikehomero May 5, 2018

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    Her are the fotos of the PO:

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    best regards


    Jürgen
     
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  17. padders

    padders May 5, 2018

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    Personally think the the PO is better value as at least it left the factory in that form and wasn't thrown together by god knows what amateur. Is that a 2201.50? If so that is a desirable model and wears very well indeed, though to be honest I prefer the 39mm case of the original SM300 (and reiussues) more. €2800 might be a bit steep for a 2201.50 though but I suppose dealers have to eat. In a private sale, I would expect one to change hands at around £2k/€2,300.

    A poor comparison shot:

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  18. bikehomero

    bikehomero May 5, 2018

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    Yes it is the 42mm 2201.50. I think at € 2300 my decision would have fallen immediately.


    But i don't worry about a Watchco. It's not rocket science to pull togeter a finished movement into a case and all the parts are OMEGA originals.
     
  19. Foo2rama

    Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. May 5, 2018

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    2500 42mm white number dial PO only has an upside right now. As @padders thoughtfuly showed they wear great and they are heritage inspired but not faux patained. Highly under rated right now.
     
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  20. bikehomero

    bikehomero May 13, 2018

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    I did it, today bought the SM 300 Watchco. PO 2500 stays still on the screen. Here is the last foto from the seller.


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