Omega Railmaster 2914-4, question??

hansaboy · Feb 19, 2023

Hi Guys, looking at a Railmaster, serial nr 17089486.
Not in the mood to buy it, but would like to learn more....😉

Do you have some nice websites that could enlighten me a bit more??

Here are some pictures!

And feel free to comment, always appreciate your help!

Thanks.

joe band · Feb 19, 2023

not a moon watch, but that case has the rare Lunar Pebble surface.

gemini4 · Feb 19, 2023

Do you have more pics? Movement, inside caseback, better pic of outside caseback?
Does it have the inner movement cover and spacer?

hansaboy · Feb 19, 2023

gemini4
Do you have more pics? Movement, inside caseback, better pic of outside caseback?
Does it have the inner movement cover and spacer?

Here it comes!

gemini4 · Feb 19, 2023

From what I can see, beyond the obvious wear:
Crown is incorrect
Movement spacer is missing
Hands are correct but perhaps relumed. A GC would answer relume questions.
It appears that the worn caseback is engraved correctly with “Railmaster” and not “Flightmaster”.
Without an extract, it believe the caliber and movement number range is correct and rather nice considering the outside wear.

hansaboy · Feb 19, 2023

gemini4
From what I can see, beyond the obvious wear:
Crown is incorrect
Movement spacer is missing
Hands are correct but perhaps relumed. A GC would answer relume questions.
It appears that the worn caseback is engraved correctly with “Railmaster” and not “Flightmaster”.
Without an extract, it believe the caliber and movement number range is correct and rather nice considering the outside wear.

Damn... That was fast!

Thanks!

Do you know any websites that have info etc regarding Railmasters??😀

gemini4 · Feb 19, 2023

Besides here this site is good

https://thespringbar.com/blogs/guides/omega-railmaster-a-collector-s-guide/

hansaboy · Feb 19, 2023

gemini4
Besides here this site is good

https://thespringbar.com/blogs/guides/omega-railmaster-a-collector-s-guide/

Sweeeeet!!
The evening is saved!👍

Thanks a lot!

Cheers

hansaboy · Dec 12, 2023

Hi Forum Friends!

Waking up this post with a question...
There are not many posts here regarding Railmasters (compared to Speedys...🙄).

But I am looking at a 2914-5, and I wonder if these hands are the correct ones?
Reading about these, the early ones should have the broad arrow, but for the -5:s?
The movement is the 285, serial nr 18986xxx.

And the dial has the recessed lume wells, but there seems to be some "work" done around the lume plots maybe?
Sadly the inner plate (MuMetal?) is gone...

Please do comment??

Cheers!

hansaboy · Dec 12, 2023

Forgot the movementpicture...

watchyouwant · Dec 12, 2023

Looks good. The Dial has some masking work around the wells ( quite common with Radium degradation ) done. I have a few soft iron inner covers left ... As always, depends on the price.

hansaboy · Dec 12, 2023

watchyouwant
Looks good. The Dial has some masking work around the wells ( quite common with Radium degradation ) done. I have a few soft iron inner covers left ... As always, depends on the price.

Thanks!

What are your thoughts about the hands?
I have a hard time with these...

And good to know that you have the inner cover also!

hansaboy · Dec 12, 2023

Here are better close ups if it helps?

Sa Calobra · Dec 12, 2023

gemini4
From what I can see, beyond the obvious wear:
Crown is incorrect
Movement spacer is missing
Hands are correct but perhaps relumed. A GC would answer relume questions.
It appears that the worn caseback is engraved correctly with “Railmaster” and not “Flightmaster”.
Without an extract, it believe the caliber and movement number range is correct and rather nice considering the outside wear.

Newbie question - how would you know it with a GC? Holding it above the watch would mean you would also get the radiation from the markers. Would you remove the hands and check them separately or is there a workaround?

ecarpino · Dec 12, 2023

Sa Calobra
Newbie question - how would you know it with a GC? Holding it above the watch would mean you would also get the radiation from the markers. Would you remove the hands and check them separately or is there a workaround?

With a GC you could check it because radium reacts much stronger than tritium, even with a glass covering the hands/markers. It is not going to be as dangerous as without the glass, but it would still react stronger than tritium.

Davidt · Dec 12, 2023

ecarpino
With a GC you could check it because radium reacts much stronger than tritium, even with a glass covering the hands/markers. It is not going to be as dangerous as without the glass, but it would still react stronger than tritium.

But a GC won’t differentiate between radium just on the hands, just one the dial or both.

For example, I have a hard time believing the markers are original on this watch simply because they look too neat and uniform. A GC won’t confirm they markers are radium as it could just be picking up emissions from the hands.

Sa Calobra · Dec 13, 2023

Davidt
But a GC won’t differentiate between radium just on the hands, just one the dial or both.

For example, I have a hard time believing the markers are original on this watch simply because they look too neat and uniform. A GC won’t confirm they markers are radium as it could just be picking up emissions from the hands.

Thank you, indeed that was the doubt i had. So removing the hands and measuring separately would be the only way

hansaboy · Dec 13, 2023

Could it be that during a service, the watchmaker tried to "clean up" the bleeding?
@watchyouwant had a nice thought on that?

Attaching another dial with a not so successfull cleaning...
Picture nr 2 shows the dial of the watch that I am looking at, and the lume does look a bit "dirty"/spotty on that one.

Dash1 · Dec 13, 2023

The dark marks around the lume are probably radium burns. The dial lume does look a little suspect, but hard to say from the photos.

Davidt · Dec 13, 2023

The dial/lume could be correct but I wouldn’t assume it is from the photos. The halo around the wells could be where radium has been cleaned but I would expect more damage to the underlying black finish.

Given the very consistent nature of the lume, and its apparent lack of granularity, coupled with the halo around the lume, I simply wouldn’t be able to convince myself it was original from the photos and would bud accordingly.

Omega Railmaster 2914-4, question??

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