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·With this one pix only lottery, I would say not a redial.
Hopefully you get a Omega automatic movement inside.
Hopefully you get a Omega automatic movement inside.
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Davidt
·Looks like it might be ok but it’s a gamble laying out cash one a single crappy picture.
Unless it’s dirt cheap I’d pass on principle if the seller sant be bothered to provide more than one shit picture.
Unless it’s dirt cheap I’d pass on principle if the seller sant be bothered to provide more than one shit picture.
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Caliber561
·Looks good to me. I would expect it to be a 564-equipped 168.005 with a serial number of at least 25 million. Get better pictures and shots of the movement to be sure about the details before making a purchase though.
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dsio
··Ash @ ΩFCase ain't bad either, nice facets
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ConElPueblo
·Note that the bracelet is for a different model.
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NVWC
·The facets look nice, but there is some damage to the medial part of right lower lug.
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Pvazao
·Thank you very much for your comments, really appreciate!
The bracelet is a 1093 with 515 end links which, as far as I know, were made for the c-case constellation.
Assuming the movement is OK, what would a fair price for the watch with that bracelet?
The bracelet is a 1093 with 515 end links which, as far as I know, were made for the c-case constellation.
Assuming the movement is OK, what would a fair price for the watch with that bracelet?
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TexOmega
·$8-1000 USD ONLY if the movement is in working condition
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Kapka
·I think that 800-1000 USD would be quite good deal in my opinion. If you can get pictures of the case back and inside to confirm that the movement is OK.
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Caliber561
·I'd be willing to pay $1000-1500 if you don't want it...
The 1093 bracelet has value to it (not exactly as common as a BoR)
While the dial doesn't have Onyx indexes, it's in pretty solid condition. The crystal is a branded service replacement, and the bezel doesn't appear to be cracked. The case does have slight issues, but I'm pretty sure that's an original 4204 'flat-foot' crown on the side. Assuming the movement and caseback and okay, $1000 would be a steal IMO.
The 1093 bracelet has value to it (not exactly as common as a BoR)
While the dial doesn't have Onyx indexes, it's in pretty solid condition. The crystal is a branded service replacement, and the bezel doesn't appear to be cracked. The case does have slight issues, but I'm pretty sure that's an original 4204 'flat-foot' crown on the side. Assuming the movement and caseback and okay, $1000 would be a steal IMO.
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Pvazao
·Thanks for the feedback about the price range of the watch.
Unfortunately, the price asked by the seller is in the upper side of the price range and he is very reluctant in negotiate it.
By the way, the back case doesn’t has the typical constellation gold engraving, but that is, as far as I know, normal. Right?
Unfortunately, the price asked by the seller is in the upper side of the price range and he is very reluctant in negotiate it.
By the way, the back case doesn’t has the typical constellation gold engraving, but that is, as far as I know, normal. Right?
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ConElPueblo
·P PvazaoThanks for the feedback about the price range of the watch.
Unfortunately, the price asked by the seller is in the upper side of the price range and he is very reluctant in negotiate it.
By the way, the back case doesn’t has the typical constellation gold engraving, but that is, as far as I know, normal. Right?
Honestly, with just the one photo in the original post, all advice you are getting here is guesswork.
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Caliber561
·P PvazaoThanks for the feedback about the price range of the watch.
Unfortunately, the price asked by the seller is in the upper side of the price range and he is very reluctant in negotiate it.
By the way, the back case doesn’t has the typical constellation gold engraving, but that is, as far as I know, normal. Right?
If the caseback is for a 168.005, then the answer to that is yes.
Also, this point:
Honestly, with just the one photo in the original post, all advice you are getting here is guesswork.
Is very true. I should have more strongly qualified my evaluation, especially considering the movement and its condition are still complete unknowns. If the movement turns out to have been replaced by some non-Omega piece, is damaged, or unoriginal in some other way, that would significantly reduce the value of the piece, even with the solid condition of the dial/case/etc.
Has the seller provided more pictures of the watch? If they're unable to send any others, I'd pass if the watch is being offered for $1500 or more. At the lower end of my range is what I would personally be willing to take a gamble on, but even that would necessitate there being some sort of additional information from the seller.
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·Honestly, with just the one photo in the original post, all advice you are getting here is guesswork.
Agreed, and also, when the seller fails to provide any further pictures, that's often a warning sign to be very wary.
Regarding price range:
1500USD is a price that should include enough pictures for you to be certain. Compare:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/omega-constellation-168-005-dog-leg-pie-pan-euro-1350.134693/ - this ones last offer was pretty much spot on 1500USD shipped.
With only this one picture, my rough calculation would be:
Value of the case: ~500USD (the last two I saw on ebay went for 550USD and close to 600USD)
Value of the bracelet: ~200USD
Value of the hands: ~50USD
Value of the dial: ~200USD
Value of the plexi & crown: ~50USD
I'm applying pretty low prices here that can be realized even if it's a redial, even if the crown is a modern repro, etc. etc. - assuming the worst case, so to say. This'll add up to about 1000USD, so that'd be the max I'd be willing to risk if I was after it and felt like gambling. If it arrives with the correct cal. 561 in it: perfect, you got yourself a deal. If it doesn't you'd be able to get back your money, albeit with a quite bit of work.
That being said: It's not a particularly uncommon ref, especially the date ones. If you don't want the work, a nice example for reasonable money will come up at some point in the not too distant future.
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Pvazao
·Agreed, and also, when the seller fails to provide any further pictures, that's often a warning sign to be very wary.
Regarding price range:
1500USD is a price that should include enough pictures for you to be certain. Compare:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/omega-constellation-168-005-dog-leg-pie-pan-euro-1350.134693/ - this ones last offer was pretty much spot on 1500USD shipped.
With only this one picture, my rough calculation would be:
Value of the case: ~500USD (the last two I saw on ebay went for 550USD and close to 600USD)
Value of the bracelet: ~200USD
Value of the hands: ~50USD
Value of the dial: ~200USD
Value of the plexi & crown: ~50USD
I'm applying pretty low prices here that can be realized even if it's a redial, even if the crown is a modern repro, etc. etc. - assuming the worst case, so to say. This'll add up to about 1000USD, so that'd be the max I'd be willing to risk if I was after it and felt like gambling. If it arrives with the correct cal. 561 in it: perfect, you got yourself a deal. If it doesn't you'd be able to get back your money, albeit with a quite bit of work.
That being said: It's not a particularly uncommon ref, especially the date ones. If you don't want the work, a nice example for reasonable money will come up at some point in the not too distant future.
Great info!
I know the watch belonged to an older person that died a year ago from COVID-19.
The watch was then sold by his son to a antique shop along with another belongs.
The current owner is the antique shop, which isn’t specialized in watches. So I think I can negotiate the price of the watch based on your feedback.
Thanks again all for your comments!
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·Good buy, enjoy
564 is top notch
with these additional pix, I'd say anything around $1500-1800 is outstanding
564 is top notch
with these additional pix, I'd say anything around $1500-1800 is outstanding
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Larry S
··Color Commentator for the Hyperbole.My kinda Pie Pan! Congrats!
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Truva1
·I like the dial. The color combination. Enjoy it.
