Omega Jumping second Shop Chronometre`

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need some help..... something for sale and i can not find my documention for that ...... as far as i remember, this is the rarest case made by omega and there was a nickname for it; like scientific case. or something on that line. handmade alloy case and all parts with the same case number, 47. some members here have older Catalogues from the 40`s , where the reference number should be mentioned. I looked up google and that was no help. Caliber 120, Jumping second. included a few pictures and hope, somebody can find more infos..... kind regards. Achim
 
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Found it in my library ! in the old Omega Book from Kreutzer. Reference 5003. which is stamped on the bottom and this is number 47. all good ! Thanks for looking. kind regards. achim
 
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These are lovely.
But @watchyouwant beware - it is missing its hacking mechanism (which is sadly so often the case).
 
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These are lovely.
But @watchyouwant beware - it is missing its hacking mechanism (which is sadly so often the case).

so, where would that be located outside the case? some lever on the back? kind regards. achim
 
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so, where would that be located outside the case? some lever on the back? kind regards. achim
The quick answer is that it would be a knob where the empty hole is.

The 59-8D SCS (which later became the Cal.120), used two different hacking methods (I have seen a third but I think it was only a prototype). The image below shows the detail of the hacking mechanism.



The original version used a ‘twist knob’ which introduced a tiny blade into the jump second wheel (which stopped it). This version therefore had three ‘controls’ – the winding key, the time setting knob and the hacking knob.

The T1 version (which came after only one year) used a tiny bar which was depressed using the time setting knob and bore against the alternating split second escapement arm. This version therefore had only two controls.

Your watch is of the first variety (which is why there are three holes in the alloy base). The image below shows a 5003 like yours – but a later version with only the two controls, and thus only two holes.


The other type of case for the 59-8D SCS used a plastic movement cover (through which the movement could be seen). The image below shows a cover from each of the versions described, with respectively two and three holes.


In my opinion a beautiful movement.

It is not unusual to find these clocks without a second hand. I have heard sellers explain that Omega made a version with no second hand – which is rubbish! It usually means that there had been a problem with the jump second system which was too difficult for the watchmaker to repair – so he removed the whole jump second mechanism (leaving an accurate clock but without a second hand). The whole point of the movement was that it was a ‘jump second’ – hence ‘SCS’ (seconde au centre sautante - jumping centre second)

I hope that helps Achim. Tom
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That is fantastic, Tom ! Will have a closer look tomorrow, what is missing. Have asked the factory, if they have an original dial left somewhere .....if they have, will send to Biel. Thanks again for your time ! I learn every day. Kind regards. Achim
 
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The quick answer is that it would be a knob where the empty hole is.

The 59-8D SCS (which later became the Cal.120), used two different hacking methods (I have seen a third but I think it was only a prototype). The image below shows the detail of the hacking mechanism.



The original version used a ‘twist knob’ which introduced a tiny blade into the jump second wheel (which stopped it). This version therefore had three ‘controls’ – the winding key, the time setting knob and the hacking knob.

The T1 version (which came after only one year) used a tiny bar which was depressed using the time setting knob and bore against the alternating split second escapement arm. This version therefore had only two controls.

Your watch is of the first variety (which is why there are three holes in the alloy base). The image below shows a 5003 like yours – but a later version with only the two controls, and thus only two holes.


The other type of case for the 59-8D SCS used a plastic movement cover (through which the movement could be seen). The image below shows a cover from each of the versions described, with respectively two and three holes.


In my opinion a beautiful movement.

It is not unusual to find these clocks without a second hand. I have heard sellers explain that Omega made a version with no second hand – which is rubbish! It usually means that there had been a problem with the jump second system which was too difficult for the watchmaker to repair – so he removed the whole jump second mechanism (leaving an accurate clock but without a second hand). The whole point of the movement was that it was a ‘jump second’ – hence ‘SCS’.

I hope that helps Achim. Tom

Wow 👍
 
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Second generation whit Swedish dial.
As so often, we see how important the Swedish market was, particularly at this period. Several interesting calibres - and catalogues that match.
 
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Second generation whit Swedish dial.

WOW! That is cool👍 Do you know if the use of «RÄTT TID» was connected
to the company «Rätt Tid AB» or just the transelation of «Correct time»
 
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WOW! That is cool👍 Do you know if the use of «RÄTT TID» was connected
to the company «Rätt Tid AB» or just the transelation of «Correct time»

Hi i belive its correct time and no conection to the company.
This was deliverd by J-P Brant to the watchshop.
 
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Hi i belive its correct time and no conection to the company

Correct. It was typically used on all such clocks for the Swedish market...

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CertRT2.jpg
 
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After a looong wait, Biel came back and there might be a Dial available. Patience and if that turns out to be the case, I'm in.