I have an Omega Grand Prix Paris 1900 pocket watch. Case appears to be silver (C90C) The Serial number is 301735, which dates it to 1908-1912. I am trying to figure out if this watch is rare and is it valuable? I have seen many pictures of Omega pocket watches from that era, but I have never found one like this. Attached are photos which show front, back, inside and other details. Any information is appreciated.
I just noticed the Swiss Bear Hallmark inside the rim of the case, indicating the case is .935 fine silver. What is odd is that I only see two bears, not one or three which is the standard.
What about the dial? it says Omega, wouldn't that be an Omega specific style? Or are you saying that this is a custom case, with an Omega movement. Thanks
The Omega logo does not appear to be correct for the era, and the style doesn't seem to match anything I have ever seen. The outer case is missing any Omega logos. It is not abnormal for a pocket watch to have an external case from another MFG. The dial.. could be of period or modern?
I am starting to think this watch is very rare. I searched more images on the internet last night, not one watch even comes close out of hundreds of images. Is there an Omega vintage pocket watch expert I should be contacting?
Well the grand prix marking is certainly not rare, pretty much every Omega pw from 1901-1914 seems to have it. I also think yours has had dial work, the logo doesn't look completely right to me. Here is a pic of a gold one of a similar era. That number you are quoting is the case number not the movement serial, that would usually be engraved on the movement itself like this one below or sometimes under the dial as presumably in your case. An Omega serial of 1908-1912 era would have 7 digits and be around 3-4m not 6 digits which is the format the case numbers take.
Your Omega logo and the Jewel Settings are very different from the one I have. check out this close up.
Yes the movements do look rather different, yours has more decoration, my pic has chatons for the 3 jewels you highlight but the basic architecture is similar to my eye, there are a similarities, they look from the same family.
I'd call it an Omega Art Nouveau Lèpine. Case serial is actually 3,017,354 which dates the case to 1902 or 1903 (approx). Case number and movement number are different but with these early watches, they will be in the same era. The movement number will be stamped on the main plate under the dial. If we know the case diameter in millimetres we can figure out if it's a 15''', 17''' or 19''' L 7-16p. I don't think it's rare in the "only 10 made" sense, but may be rare in the sense that it has survived being melted down. The case and dial are silver and I think, with gold numeral cartouches.
As said above, the movement and the case are genuine. I think the dial could be as well. The shape of the logo looks correct. The Omega script and the logo look hand painted, but it is probably OK for a cartouche dial like this one. I think this kind of dial and decorated movement can most often be found in non Swiss cases Omegas. But this watch can still perfectly be correct.
Thanks so much to everyone participating in this thread. I also have an Omega pocket watch of a similar era and style, with a bit of a different case. Attached are photos. This watch was bought in San Cristóbal de las Casas, Chiapas, México, in 1993 for approximately $80USD and it does still run. Eager for any and all information that folks could share.
The watch seems all correct to me, including the logo on the dial. The case and dial are attractive to my eyes. However, the caliber is a common standard B quality. As already said above, Omega had a huge number of different case-dial-hands configuration and finding a watch similar to no other example shown on the web doesn't make it exceptionnally expensive, even if it is a unique one nowadays.
Thanks for this info. I'm not particularly concerned with its value but, rather, that it's legit. An SMP 2254.50 is my safe queen and I've always been a big fan of the Omega brand. Do you happen to know how I can date this pocket watch?
Based on the serial number, I can't give a better estimate than the one Jim (JiminOz) gave above : 1902 or 1903. If you want to have an exact date, ask for an extract of archives at Omega, but you will have to pay for it and they may not have the info.