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Omega Geneve 135.041 cal.601 (I think)

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Hi all,

I recently bought this omega which has this awesome riveted bracelet. When I tried to wind the watch, the stem broke off inside the movement but it did run. The seller sent me a new stem, and I took it to a watch repair shop. He said he was unable to repair it because the “detent was broken” so the new stem wouldn’t stay in. However, when I got the watch back the old stem was still broken inside which makes me question whether he actually tried to put the new stem in. If he did put the stem in, I am wondering if maybe the seller sent me the wrong replacement? Is the detent issue common? I don’t understand how it could have been running before the stem broke with a broken detent. Thanks.

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Dan S
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Unless you want to deal with a project, maybe you should just return it. It's not like it's a rare watch and the dial has some distracting marks.
 
dsio
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Yea these are very common and very cheap which is why people like them, typically $300 or less
 
stumpedddd
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Unless you want to deal with a project, maybe you should just return it. It's not like it's a rare watch and the dial has some distracting marks.
It wasn’t very expensive and I like the bracelet, which I think is pretty rare (although I know these aren’t very sought after). I’m just not sure if this is a project or my watch repair guy is incompetent cuz why would you put the broken stem back in?
 
Davidt
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Sounds like the sellers trying to pass off this onto you. Assume it will need a full service which is going to be £250 minimum. Is it still cheap once that cost is factored in?
 
Dan S
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If the detent is really broken (whatever that means), it would be more difficult to remove the broken stem, and maybe he doesn't want to start investing a lot of time into this watch. After service and repairs, you may not think it's so cheap anymore.
 
stumpedddd
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Sounds like the sellers trying to pass off this onto you. Assume it will need a full service which is going to be £250 minimum. Is it still cheap once that cost is factored in?
I mean maybe - it’s a long story but I can’t really return it. Idk how they would pass it off though cuz it ran when I first had it, the stem just broke from winding it.
 
stumpedddd
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If the detent is really broken (whatever that means), it would be more difficult to remove the broken stem, and maybe he doesn't want to start investing a lot of time into this watch. After service and repairs, you may not think it's so cheap anymore.
Well that’s backwards though cuz how would you even know the detent is broken then?
 
Davidt
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I’m no watchmaker but I believe the detent or detent screw is what you press or unscrew to release the crown/stem. If this is broken it’s not possible to remove the stem without disassembling the movement.
 
stumpedddd
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I’m no watchmaker but I believe the detent or detent screw is what you press or unscrew to release the crown/stem. If this is broken it’s not possible to remove the stem without disassembling the movement.
That's what I thought, but repairman said that he got the old one out and put the new one in, but it wouldnt hold the new stem in
 
Dan S
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Sorry, but something about the story as you are telling it is not adding up. Maybe there is some sort of misunderstanding. But the bottom line is that we can't evaluate the watch for you based on vague descriptions of the internet. Personally, I'd advise returning it. But if you want to take on a project, I hope you really like the watch because you could easily wind up upside down on it.
 
stumpedddd
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Sorry, but something about the story as you are telling it is not adding up. Maybe there is some sort of misunderstanding. But the bottom line is that we can't evaluate the watch for you based on vague descriptions of the internet. Personally, I'd advise returning it. But if you want to take on a project, I hope you really like the watch because you could easily wind up upside down on it.
I myself was confused by the story - was just wondering if anyone had any similar problems. Appreciate your help.
 
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I’m guessing the detent is the setting lever. It can be accessed by removing the dial and hands. A complete disassemble isn’t required to correct. I smell a bit of bull though. If he changed it, it should be fine.
 
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I’m guessing the detent is the setting lever. It can be accessed by removing the dial and hands. A complete disassemble isn’t required to correct. I smell a bit of bull though. If he changed it, it should be fine.
Exactly - not sure how you would put in the new stem. Either way I'll get it sorted. Appreciate the help
 
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I’m guessing the detent is the setting lever. It can be accessed by removing the dial and hands. A complete disassemble isn’t required to correct. I smell a bit of bull though. If he changed it, it should be fine.
I flipped the watch upside down and it randomly started running and appears to be pretty accurate. Would it be possible for the watch to run with a "broken" detent? The old stem is still broken off inside, but the guy claimed he was able to get it out but couldn't get the new stem to engage.
 
Spruce
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Entirely possible but you can’t set the date and time, so a little impractical 😀
 
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A watchmaker should be able to get this sorted in a small amount of time for you if they have parts.

I don’t see anything within the keyless works that wouldn’t take a proper watchmaker more than an hr to have sorted and that’s removing the dial to get to it all.
 
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stumpedddd stumpedddd
I flipped the watch upside down and it randomly started running and appears to be pretty accurate. Would it be possible for the watch to run with a "broken" detent? The old stem is still broken off inside, but the guy claimed he was able to get it out but couldn't get the new stem to engage.
That can be for several reasons - stem too short...stuck setting lever...damaged stem or setting lever.

In any case, to insert a new stem you can't just jam it in - you have to press the detent button for the setting lever as you insert it.
 
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