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路Hi 馃憢 hope you're all doing well.
I'm looking for some help (and potentially reassurance 馃檹) on a recent vintage Omega purchase.
My Dad (as am I) is a huge watch enthusiast, but largely has stayed in the realm of Seiko, Hamilton, Timex, etc until now.
Omega is his top-tier watch brand - so for his 60th birthday, I wanted to go the extra mile & pick up a birth year Omega for him.
Came across a De Ville, 151.0039, with a movement serial circa 1966 - that was within budget.
Reputable professional seller on Chrono24 (4.9/5), 150+ sales, responsive to questions, no red flags raised & no indication of any "funny business".
Once the watch is in transit, I realise the listing/photos indicate a calibre 712 (not the 711 commonly associated with this De Ville reference).
Admittedly the watch was described as having a 712 calibre - I just didn't catch it right away.
The serial range (I don't have the full serial from the photos) still checks out as a 1966 - there's a couple of listings online that mention 712's, but far far less than 711's.
My understanding is 712 is essentially the chronometer rated version of a 711 - so arguable a better movement?
But now I'm doubting myself entirely 馃槗
I don't want to share photos/listing just yet, as I have yet to receive the watch myself still.
Seller has tried to reassure me that, this is not uncommon for a watch of this age.
But what is the most likely scenario here?
What is the general consensus on this?
Maybe another important note is that the crystal & crown are non-original. Crown maybe less common to have been replaced, but crystal I'd imagine is normal after 60 years.
The watch looks like it's lived a full life - it doesn't look obviously fake or anything.
Thoughts? Is it something that raises enough red flags that I should return it?
Or is it on-par for a mid-60's reference, that has been used/loved/scratched/serviced/etc?
I'm looking for some help (and potentially reassurance 馃檹) on a recent vintage Omega purchase.
My Dad (as am I) is a huge watch enthusiast, but largely has stayed in the realm of Seiko, Hamilton, Timex, etc until now.
Omega is his top-tier watch brand - so for his 60th birthday, I wanted to go the extra mile & pick up a birth year Omega for him.
Came across a De Ville, 151.0039, with a movement serial circa 1966 - that was within budget.
Reputable professional seller on Chrono24 (4.9/5), 150+ sales, responsive to questions, no red flags raised & no indication of any "funny business".
Once the watch is in transit, I realise the listing/photos indicate a calibre 712 (not the 711 commonly associated with this De Ville reference).
Admittedly the watch was described as having a 712 calibre - I just didn't catch it right away.
The serial range (I don't have the full serial from the photos) still checks out as a 1966 - there's a couple of listings online that mention 712's, but far far less than 711's.
My understanding is 712 is essentially the chronometer rated version of a 711 - so arguable a better movement?
But now I'm doubting myself entirely 馃槗
I don't want to share photos/listing just yet, as I have yet to receive the watch myself still.
Seller has tried to reassure me that, this is not uncommon for a watch of this age.
But what is the most likely scenario here?
- Some mid-60's production inconsistency? Leaving the factory with a 712?
- A later movement replacement, with a compatible calibre?
- Something to be more suspect of?
What is the general consensus on this?
Maybe another important note is that the crystal & crown are non-original. Crown maybe less common to have been replaced, but crystal I'd imagine is normal after 60 years.
The watch looks like it's lived a full life - it doesn't look obviously fake or anything.
Thoughts? Is it something that raises enough red flags that I should return it?
Or is it on-par for a mid-60's reference, that has been used/loved/scratched/serviced/etc?
