Omega Constellation Pie Pan, 561Cal authenticity

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Dr. Laplace

·Sep 20, 2019

Hello to all.
I am being offered an Omega Constellation Pie Pan, 561 Cal with case reference no 168.004.
The watch has gold coloured hands, white dial with date window. SN on the movement is 2034XXX.
My concern is the case: the case is silver. Shouldn't the hands and numerals be silver in colour as well?

The case has the reference no 168.004 and the initials SGR in a shield-like logo.
The seller admits that the plexiglass is new, but states that the dial matches the case.

Should this be correct?

Thanks in advance.

 

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Dan S

·Sep 20, 2019

https://omegaforums.net/threads/show-us-your-stainless-steel-watches-with-gold-hardware.87414/

 

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Passover

·Sep 20, 2019

Hi Doc!

Despite the stainless steel - gold question:

If you have pictures show them 😀

 

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Dan S

·Sep 20, 2019

Passover

Hi Doc!

Despite the stainless steel - gold question:

If you have pictures show them 😀

Great point. There may be other information members can provide.

 

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Dr. Laplace

·Sep 20, 2019

Thank you kindly to all.
Here is the link that the seller has to an eBay auction.
[EDIT: removed eBay link]

 

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Dr. Laplace

·Sep 20, 2019

Here are the photos. Thanks for the feedback.

 

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TNTwatch

·Sep 20, 2019

Dr. Laplace

Hello to all.
I am being offered an Omega Constellation Pie Pan, 561 Cal with case reference no 168.004.
The watch has gold coloured hands, white dial with date window. SN on the movement is 2034XXX.
My concern is the case: the case is silver. Shouldn't the hands and numerals be silver in colour as well?

The case has the reference no 168.004 and the initials SGR in a shield-like logo.
The seller admits that the plexiglass is new, but states that the dial matches the case.

Should this be correct?

Thanks in advance.

Gold colour hour markers and hands have been available on this model as well as many other steel models.

 

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Dan S

·Sep 20, 2019

Experts will be along to give better feedback, but I can't help noticing that the Omega symbol seems off-center compared to the vertical line, and the star is askew. Perhaps these are within normal Omega QC standards and they just look apparent under high magnification. But I would wait for expert advice before purchasing, because details like that can sometimes indicate that the dial has been tampered with.

 

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Passover

·Sep 20, 2019

Nice looking watch, looks clean and consistent but wait for @Peemacgee to comment...

 

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Noddyman

·Sep 20, 2019

Wonky star, cross hair extends beyond date window and it appears to fail the MOY test.
Maybe the cross hair was added later? Better clearer photos would help.

 

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gatorcpa

·Sep 20, 2019·ΩF InvestiGator

Looks like a correct "hidden crown" Constellation, Ref. 168.004, with pie-pan dial.

Pictures taken at an angle, hard to judge "MOY" test from these pictures.

Movement does not look to be in good condition. It will need some work. Could be a money pit.

All depends on the price.
gatorcpa

 

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Noddyman

·Sep 20, 2019

This line shouldn’t be here.

 

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Dr. Laplace

·Sep 20, 2019

These are the other only good photos I could find...

 

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Noddyman

·Sep 20, 2019

Dr. Laplace

These are the other only good photos I could find...

Thanks these pics help.
The fonts and MOY check out okay but I am not convinced by the cross hair and still believe it’s been added later.

 

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Peemacgee

·Sep 21, 2019·Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers

Noddyman

This line shouldn’t be here.

Noddyman

Thanks these pics help.
The fonts and MOY check out okay but I am not convinced by the cross hair and still believe it’s been added later.

Didn’t someone else post this watch in the past few days?

I have to agree that the fonts look good and the MOY wouldn’t necessarily bother me but the pics aren’t good enough to be absolutely sure.

However, although the vertical cross hair appears positioned correctly relative to the ‘e’ in Constellation, as @Noddyman says, the horizontal cross hair shouldn’t extend beyond the central dial on a pie pan.

There’s also the issue of the proximity of the star to the Constellation text, which is just plain wrong and would irritate the hell out of me.

So, although the case is quite nice, the movt is tired and has heavy rotor rub, if you add the questions about the dial it’d be a pass from me.