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  1. ev3rclear Dec 2, 2014

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    Hello,
    i am based in Vienna, Austria and just started collecting Constellations (got 12 atm).

    Next, im trying to hunt down a "de Luxe" or "Grand Luxe" Version and i have following questions:

    1) Whats the difference on the outside appearance between a "de Luxe" or "Grand Luxe"?

    2) Are there more Versions than "de Luxe" or "Grand Luxe"?

    3) Not all "de Luxe" or "Grand Luxe" are Pie Pan or?

    4) How can u spot the difference beween a "de Luxe" or "Grand Luxe" over a "regular solid gold Constellation"?

    5) Whats this? (sorry for bad pic)



    Thanks!
     
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  2. cristos71 Dec 2, 2014

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    First some pictures of the 12 and then you´ll get some answers ;) :D
     
  3. ev3rclear Dec 2, 2014

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    here we go with some pics of my collection (the 1rst row are the connies)
    sorry that the pics are mixed up and appear incongruent. i already sold some of these connies away to get new ones and the photos where made across full 2014...so i dont have all of these any more but therefore i got new ones (without pics YET)^^
     
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  4. cristos71 Dec 2, 2014

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    Nice! :)

    Basically a De Luxe always has a solid gold dial in a solid gold case, pie pan or dome. A Grand Luxe always has a solid gold dial in a solid gold case with hooded lugs, pie pan or dome.

    The picture you showed is a De Luxe in what looks like could be rose gold. Could be a 505 or a 501 in a 2852/3 reference.
     
  5. ev3rclear Dec 2, 2014

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    ok, great. now i have a much better understanding of that. i just googled "dome dial" and "hooded lugs" to get a feeling. so for the picture i posted first you checked if its a solid gold case + dial (de luxe) and after you checked if the lugs are hooded (non hooded) and you got to the result that its "just" a "de luxe".

    question:
    1) can you always see from a picture if the dial is solid gold? Are there also gold-plated dials?
    2) there are grand luxe constellations with a pie-pan dial which is sturctured with "lines" in between the sharkteeth.
    a) are they more valuable?
    b) do "de luxe" versions also come with these lined-dials?
     
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  6. JM251 Dec 2, 2014

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    I'm a bit leery of the fonts shown in the watch you just purchased. Leaning towards a redial
     
  7. ev3rclear Dec 2, 2014

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    well, i hope ill receive it tomorrow. i paid 1300 for the constellation with the spiderweb-patina and thought that 200 more wouldnt be that expensive for the "de luxe". dont knowing what you receive is somehow the beauty of life. :-P

    and its also funny... if you google "constellation grand luxe" you get a whole bunch of "de luxe" (non hooded)
    --> thats why i needed to ask because i didnt find any pattern i could build a conculsion on when google-ing
     
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  8. Saarmaster Dec 2, 2014

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    Hi,

    I also think its a redial and the movement looks not clean.

    Got pictures from a friend who was interested too.

    Do You have better pictures from dial and movement ?

    Greetings Dietmar
     
  9. ev3rclear Dec 2, 2014

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    i will post them once i receive the watch. i already have the tracking number... just need to w8 (and w8 and w8^^)

    if its a redial and its shitty i got a guy who re-dials it for 100 euro again... so that its redialed but less shitty
     
  10. JM251 Dec 2, 2014

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    photo taken this summer but happen to have mine on today! c. 1955 yellow gold Grand luxe hooded lugs, stepped pie pan and brick bracelet
     
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  11. ev3rclear Dec 2, 2014

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    its wonderful. i wish mine would have a stepped pie pan too :(

    these questions still need to be answered :p

    1) can you always see from a picture if the dial is solid gold? Are there also gold-plated dials?
    2) are there also "de luxe" constellations with a stepped pie-pan dial?
    3) are stepped pie pan dials or non stepped pie pan dials more valueable, in general?
     
  12. Saarmaster Dec 2, 2014

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    If its allowed I can post 2 pictures from the seller .

    @ ev3rclear: Or mail me your Mailadress.

    I think what you paid is a real good price for our EU region .

    Two weeks ago he wants 300 more.

    Dietmar
     
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  14. ev3rclear Dec 2, 2014

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  15. ev3rclear Dec 2, 2014

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    here we go with the pics from saarmaster
     
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  16. aga79 Dec 2, 2014

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    Redial but stil nice for me...
    just be patient...waiting for the good one coming ;)
     
  17. Skv Dec 3, 2014

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    Why get it redialled again? I personally would return it and wait for the right one to pull the trigger on.
     
  18. ev3rclear Dec 3, 2014

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    i like it as it is :)
     
  19. Tom Dick and Harry Dec 3, 2014

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    Im seriously debating buying one of these at the moment
     
  20. cristos71 Sep 6, 2017

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    Not a Grand Luxe which AFAIK is a name first bequest to the top of the range hooded lug Constellation, I'd describe yours as a hooded lug chronometer, I've been doing a little searching since you first posted and came across a couple of photo's from Respectable Member @Privateday7 visit to the Omega Museum way back in 2013, maybe he remembers whether he also saw a platinum version as these two are white and yellow gold.

    The third picture is from my own visit to Bienne last year, a platinum and diamond Constellation Grand Luxe.

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