Hi,
I am new to the site and wanted some advise as I was looking to add the above to my collection.
The watch is dated around 1965, 18ct gold, all original apart from replacement crystal. It has a case back engraving, no box or papers and has not had a recent service. It is priced at £1650. Current owner had had it 10 years and has barely worn the watch apart from a few special occasions.
What is peoples taken on its legitimacy and is it fairly priced?
Also, would having the crystal replaced de value it further down the line?
An y info greatly appreciated

 

I'd say it's priced at the higher end of the scale, but not outrageously so. I'd like to see a pie-pan dial for that amount. No loss in value as long as it's an original Omega one (has an engraving in the middle), and a very slight loss in case of a generic replacement.

 

He did say it was an original omega one, he has also kept the crystal they replaced. I was thinking more around the £1300-£1400 and see if he bites.
Do watches of this era that come with original strap and buckle command much of a higher fee than without or is it generally considered not a huge requirement?

 

Is the Constellation in the U.K.?
Do you have pics of the inner case back?
Do you have the serial number?

Decent bezel - slight polishing
Lugs slightly rounded
Unusual medallion - could be a Dennison (hence the question above)
Movement has seen better days - and serious rubbing on the rotor
A 564 '65 Should be a 168.010 -so Wrong crown for 'hidden crown' Connie but these do appear to crop up on Dennisons
(However it could be a .018)
Correct dial but looks like there may be the start of some spotting

Original strap - good - a bonus)
Original 18k buckle - very good (£250+ ? if Omega)

£1650?
More info would be helpful to assess the price

If you like it use the need for service as a bargaining tool
Hope that helps

 

Hi, thank you for the detailed response. The watch is indeed in the UK, however it does not have original strap or crown so was curious as to how much this affects what people are generally willing to pay. I will attach a picture of the inner case back if that helps.

 

I meant buckle not crown, sorry its early!

 

it's a British made case
the 5 of 168.5004 plus the OWC gives that away
This why it has subtle differences to a 'standard' hidden crown Connie case

an .004 with a 564 is slightly unusual and might start alarm bells ringing normally but British companies tended to make older case styles for longer

British cases are good quality (as heavy as Swiss - unlike say south american cases) but whilst collectible are not as desirable as swiss cases
Desirability = value

Do you know for certain the crown is not original?
(You mentioned buckle previously -which is a modern Hirsch)
as i mentioned British cased Connies do seem to appear with the 'wrong' crown and I don't know if it's ever been proven/disproven if they were original or not

original strap and buckle are not too important IMO - as they rarely are attached to the watch

taking into account what's been mentioned above
it's an English 18k connie in decent shape - not a perfect collectors piece
if this was swiss and crisp (and no spotting) I would expect it to be nearer £2000 not £1650

if you like it and can reduce the price to have it serviced (around £200 if no major parts are required) then that wouldn't be a bad deal IMHO

however I would see it in person first - the spotting might irritate you and could get worse

ps there doesn't appear to be any seals - which might be why the movement is manky and the dial starting to spot

edit: cross posts -but advice remains the same
2nd edit: look at Desmonds Constellation collectors blog site -there's a whole section on British made Connies
http://omega-constellation-collectors.blogspot.co.uk

 

He had originally priced it at £1850 which in my opinion was on the high side, plus it has remained unsold for over 3 weeks. Would the fact it is British made and not Dennison lower the value/collectability?
Do you think the spotting is likely to get worse if I wear the watch sparingly and its kept boxed and dry most of the time?

 

Re OWC - the S mark I think is for Schackman
London based and equally good quality to Dennison IIRC
BTW it looks like a '63-'64 hallmark
do you have the serial no.?

spotting can stay the same or get worse - it's risk you'd have to take

 

From what I can make out above the calibre no. on pic of the movement it seems to start with 23 which would tally with 1966

 

An article on that link you sent does state that it isn't uncommon for shackman to case a 564 from the late 60's

 

Yep - but that's because Dennison stopped operating in '67

I can't read that serial number I'm afraid - can't even tell if you can see the first digits

 

Would you be overly concerned if it was '66 with that particular hallmark?

 

just amended the date
63-64


2 years between case and movement in this case wouldn't worry me too much
if it was swiss I'd be more concerned perhaps

 

My sentiments exactly regarding the post above. Information was of great help, I have offered £1385 for the watch in question, if it isn't enough I shall move on. The information given today will certainly help me be more savvy in the future and can very much be used as a bargaining tool.