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Omega Constellation 14900 SC 61 dial

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I'm a long-time lurker here because of my interest in the Constellation and I would appreciate the view of the forum's experts in this 14900 SC 61. The dial seems to lack the crisp demarcation between the outer and the inner sector of the dial typically seen in pie pan models. A second question relates to the lumep lume. While I found pictures of just one or two examples of pie pan Constellations with some lume plots, has this dial been lumed at some point? The hands have a fine line of lume and at the outer end of the indices there are lume plots. I added some pics of the movement for background.

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I would think the dial has been repainted, and also relumed. Not an expert though!
 
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That's what I thought, more so when comparing it with my 168.0065, even if that one is from much later...

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Follow-up question: could this dial be a convex instead of a refurbished pan pie dial?
 
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It looks like a piepan that was poorly refinished, when they sand off the surface of the old paint it smooths the edges of the facets and they get lost. There are some that have the talent to avoid that and do a good job but this wasn’t done by someone good.
 
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Ok, looking at the position of the minute marks, there is indeed a 12 sided polygonal. Are there, then, pie pan dials without the typically sharp demarcation between inner and outer sector (like in both the black dial above and the one I initially posted), or would you consider both to have been 'refurbished'?
 
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Ok, looking at the position of the minute marks, there is indeed a 12 sided polygonal. Are there, then, pie pan dials without the typically sharp demarcation between inner and outer sector (like in both the black dial above and the one I initially posted), or would you consider both to have been 'refurbished'?
The OP dial is definitely repainted. I'd need to see better photos of the black dial. In some 12-sided dials the demarcation is mainly in the paint, not the shape of the dial. There is some controversy about whether those dials have a subtle "kink" or not. Or whether there might be three types of 12-sided dial: sharp kink/step, subtle kink, and optical illusion.
 
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Or whether there might be three types of 12-sided dial: sharp kink/step, subtle kink, and optical illusion.
Definitely this.
 
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The OP dial is definitely repainted. I'd need to see better photos of the black dial. In some 12-sided dials the demarcation is mainly in the paint, not the shape of the dial. There is some controversy about whether those dials have a subtle "kink" or not. Or whether there might be three types of 12-sided dial: sharp kink/step, subtle kink, and optical illusion.
Thanks! That's helpful.
 
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Unless you are getting it for a very low price with full disclosure from the seller, it is probably best to walk away and continue your search for an example with a confirmed original dial. Your keen eye has already saved you from a potentially misleading purchase.

Thank you for sharing this with the community! It's a perfect case study in what to look for.
Long story short: I bought it from a seller in Tokyo and my son brought it with him when he came back from Japan. I knew it wasn't perfect and arguing as such, I managed to bring the price down to around 600 euro. A but of an impulsive buy, but no regrets 😀
 
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A few new shots showing how the dial looks a bit different in function of how light strikes the dial - the polygonal demarcation shows a bit more...

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Here is mine, for reference if helpful.

14900 SC 61 with original dial:


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Here is mine, for reference if helpful.

14900 SC 61 with original dial:


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Tx! In a much better shape, indeed!
 
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