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  1. Raza Sep 23, 2018

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    Hello all

    This being an opinion seeking post , after much googling about omega constellation pie pan models on the net, I haven't come across this particular model with arrow heads and date , either models were only arrow heads no date or the dials were completely different for the ones with date. The seller told me it's a genuine watch inherited but his late father , dating back to the 1960s when the watch was bought he recalls.

    This omega is in good shape, no major scratches except the inner dial has a faded/ corroded imprint (believing it had a minor water/ sweat breakthrough over years) machine needs servicing and the original strap has been replaced, no box nor papers.

    Dear omega enthusiasts , please advice on the reference on this model / the year. Is there anything that I have missed as I have in positive mind if in buying this time piece as my first ever vintage. Quoted price is at 600usd.
     
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  2. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Sep 23, 2018

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    Quite genuine. Dial is rather ugly and it's not going to get any better, but you could do a lot worse for $600.

    Likely a ref 168.005, caliber 561.
     
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  3. Raza Sep 24, 2018

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    Much appreciated
     
  4. kaisiang098 Sep 24, 2018

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    Hmm this is an odd one. I've never seen a 168.005 with a 2-liner dial and broad arrow markers or any other 2 liner dials with dog leg lugs though i could be wrong.
    Well $600 is pretty reasonable but i would say you ought to pay a little but more for a nicer example.
     
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  5. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Sep 24, 2018

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    I think it is a transitional ref. 14902.

    https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/watch-omega-constellation-calendar-ko-14902

    https://shop.hodinkee.com/products/1960s-omega-constellation-reference-14902?variant=12089453445195

    One was sold here with a 3 line dial several years ago.

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    https://omegaforums.net/threads/196...onstellation-all-steel-caliber-561-date.9077/

    Crown on the OP’s watch is a modern replacement.

    Hope this helps,
    gatorcpa
     
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  6. S.H. Sep 24, 2018

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    Hello! and welcome.

    What follows is just my opinion...

    This is not what I call a watch "in good shape", because at least the dial has water damage. I don't think anybody can do anything about it, but I don't restore dials. The dial being the most visible part of the watch, I personally would stay away but it is just me.

    Also, water on the dial could mean water in the movement. There may be (or not, who knows) one or two ugly surprises inside. As an example, in the last Connie I serviced some genius f*cked up the barrel, I had to do some magic with my lathe to have a good result. Get prepared to pay more than a regular service for a vintage piece.

    So, with a service, a signed correct crown and a nice strap (maybe a signed buckle), you may look at a 1000$ total bill for a cool watch with an ugly dial. Are you in love with the idea? Because the dial defects may seriously bug you after a while, and they make the watch harder to resell.

    I'd say, if it is your first vintage, get yourself a less "hot" watch like a regular Seamaster or Geneve, in a very clean state; if you do not love it after all, you will be able to flip it, and it will cost you less. Or, if the Connie is a must have, be prepared to wait a little more for the right one.
     
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  7. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Sep 24, 2018

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    Good advice.

    FYI, I waited 7 years to find a Constellation like this one with a clean dial and sharp case.
    gatorcpa
     
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  8. Raza Sep 24, 2018

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    Can't agree less on the resale point . And also the fact that the dial would haunt me eventually . True advice thanks for caring
     
  9. Raza Sep 24, 2018

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    I'd rather wait, definitely a better dial should come by
     
  10. Raza Sep 24, 2018

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    Taking a look at the dial iv posted , the 'officially certified' part is missing on mine compared to the one you linked. Is there a story behind this ?
     
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  12. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Sep 24, 2018

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    Not really. I think that from 1959-62, Omega chose not to use “Officially Certified” for aesthetic reasons.

    Beginning in 1962, they brought it back. Then around 1963, they changed their internal referencing system to make it uniform.

    So Ref. 14902 and 168.005 have exactly the same case. There are several dial variants that may be found with either reference.
    gatorcpa
     
  13. Raza Sep 25, 2018

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    Thank you very much on these insights.
     
  14. Jordan m Jan 29, 2020

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  15. Jordan m Jan 29, 2020

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    What do y’all think about this 2 liner? Anyone think they could tell me a little about it. I’m afraid of opening it up to look at reference #s
     
  16. seekingseaquest Jan 29, 2020

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    It’s a 14381 reference rail track Constellation. Nice watch. Crown is incorrect and case back has quite a bit of wear (missing some stars it seems).

    Also... dibs should you decide to part with it!
     
  17. Jordan m Jan 29, 2020

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    I had it serviced at stoll watch repair, it had been sitting for a while.They said the crown would leak and needed to be replaced. They did send me back the crown and stem. I wondered about the stars as well, is was like that when I found it. Is it just natural wear for some of them to fade away because it’s gold? What would one in this condition be worth?
     
  18. seekingseaquest Jan 29, 2020

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    That’s good on the crown! Yes, the gold will wear down if worn extensively and sometimes it gets polished away when the case is polished. Regarding values, I’d check sold ebay listings.
     
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  19. Jordan m Jan 29, 2020

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    Thanks, info is greatly appreciated