Omega chronometer 30 T2 SC RG

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Hi Franco
Great photos. Are the French market cases in 14k have the same tiny hallmark on the lugs like the one you posted?
You mentioned the image was just on the 18k. I have hallmarks on my 14k but i can't photograph them to get the quality you have.
Thanks for the help

The eagle head hallmark is also found on cases of different gold content. (edited)
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Hi Franco
Great photos. Are the French market cases in 14k have the same tiny hallmark on the lugs like the one you posted?
You mentioned the image was just on the 18k. I have hallmarks on my 14k but i can't photograph them to get the quality you have.
Thanks for the help

As far as I know, for the French law, and this is true since a long time ago, gold is only 18K or more. Thus a French product with less than 18K (or gold filled) could not have any of the French hallmarks concerning (solid) gold. But there are French hallmarks for imported products.

How do your hallmarks look like?
 
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The eagle head hallmark is also found on 14K cases

Hi Erich,

Do you have an example of that? As far as I know, the French hallmark for 14K (which is not exactly considered as solid gold) is a shell.
 
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As far as I know, for the French law, and this is true since a long time ago, gold is only 18K or more. Thus a French product with less than 18K (or gold filled) could not have any of the French hallmarks concerning (solid) gold. But there are French hallmarks for imported products.

How do your hallmarks look like?

Edit: my message may be not clear enough. There are obviously French hallmarks for 14K and even 9K, but there are not considered as (solid) gold. For the French law, a true gold product must contain at least 75% of pure gold.
 
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Hi Erich,

Do you have an example of that? As far as I know, the French hallmark for 14K (which is not exactly considered as solid gold) is a shell.
Francois,

I stand corrected and have edited my post.
I remembered wrongly and mixed it up with the eagle heads for higher gold content.
You are perfectly right with your previous statement.

I have searched in my data and have found the sheet with the French poincons



best
Erich
 
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The eagle head hallmark is also found on cases of different gold content. (edited)
Great, thank you for the help.
 
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Francois,

I stand corrected and have edited my post.
I remembered wrongly and mixed it up with the eagle heads for higher gold content.
You are perfectly right with your previous statement.

I have searched in my data and have found the sheet with the French poincons



best
Erich
Outstanding... thank you
 
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As far as I know, for the French law, and this is true since a long time ago, gold is only 18K or more. Thus a French product with less than 18K (or gold filled) could not have any of the French hallmarks concerning (solid) gold. But there are French hallmarks for imported products.

How do your hallmarks look like?
The Hallmarks on the lugs are so deep, I can not really see them. My bad, I forgot to mention, it's a Omega 167.005/6 circa 1966..which is what my watchmaker said. The Hallmarks are difficult to see even with a 15x loupe.
 
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The Hallmarks on the lugs are so deep, I can not really see them. My bad, I forgot to mention, it's a Omega 167.005/6 circa 1966..which is what my watchmaker said. The Hallmarks are difficult to see even with a 15x loupe.

Yes, they are not the easiest to see! What about the hallmarks on the case back - they should be the same - ?
 
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Yes, they are not the easiest to see! What about the hallmarks on the case back - they should be the same - ?
I don't have a image as I didn't have my camera with me when the watchmaker opened her up.On the inside of the back case,
I know there was not the SHELL, and it, the symbol didn't look like the portrait of Helvetia...could it have been a Lion?..

.I am doing this from memory but it said OMEGA WATCH CO.FAB SWISS..SWISS MADE...THEN I THINK 552 14K .585
then the symbol maybe eagle or lion?
then the next line 167005/6....The case is for sure gold, and not capped. All of case, back, hands and markers are gold..14k.
Thanks a lot for the help, it's a bit of mystery.
 
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So it is a very likely Swiss case. The Swiss hallmark for 14K is the Squirel - the Helvetia is for 18k. I do not [edit: know] any Swiss lion. But the Swiss hallmark for imported gold product (18K and 14K) is the lynx. Although, what you said tends to indicate a Swiss origin.
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So it is a very likely Swiss case. The Swiss hallmark for 14K is the Squirel - the Helvetia is for 18k. I do not any Swiss lion. But the Swiss hallmark for imported gold product (18K and 14K) is the lynx. Although, what you said tends to indicate a Swiss origin.
Wow, that makes sense given my memory of the image. It appeared to be sitting on its hind legs. I took it for a side ways lion or something.
The British have used the Lion for a lot of hallmarks in the 1800's so that's probably why I was thinking of a lion. Are there any images of the
Squirrel and the lynx you have handy? Thank you so much for your help.
 
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Wow, that makes sense given my memory of the image. It appeared to be sitting on its hind legs. I took it for a side ways lion or something.
The British have used the Lion for a lot of hallmarks in the 1800's so that's probably why I was thinking of a lion. Are there any images of the
Squirrel and the lynx you have handy? Thank you so much for your help.

Here you are! (It is from the French customs)

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...uisse-28.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3Me6WddnniTM62LnhDL2TA
 
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Are these French stamps from a book, if so, which one if I may ask.


Francois,

I stand corrected and have edited my post.
I remembered wrongly and mixed it up with the eagle heads for higher gold content.
You are perfectly right with your previous statement.

I have searched in my data and have found the sheet with the French poincons



best
Erich
 
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Are these French stamps from a book, if so, which one if I may ask.

No, not a book. I have them loose in a ring binder - got them gifted from a friend
 
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There are books and detailed data online. I have looked at some of them when I was trying to identify a maker. But concerning the main "poinçons de garantie ou de titre", I would recommend this document - from the French customs:

http://www.douane.gouv.fr/Portals/0/fichiers/professionnel/fiscalite/garantie-metaux-france.pdf
Thanks again for your exchange of knowledge, FYI, i just found this, its a well done summary of hallmarks etc.

http://www.vintagewatchstraps.com/swisshallmarks.php