Hi,
I am considering this Oversized Omega Cal 265 from 1949 but I am not sure of the dial.
The last "A" in Omega does not have a flat top. I was wondering if it is possible that some models from this era did not have a flat top or if this is a absolutely sure that this is not an original dial?
And also what would be a fair price for such a model if the dial is original?
Thank you for your help.

 

Glad to see you joined! You'll get an informed answer from Mike, Hoi, Desmond, or one of the guys here.

 

It's hard to tell but it looks original to me. Is it a 2505 , 38mm ?

 

Yes Hoi, it's a 38mm but I am not sure what you meant by 2505.
Here is the full description:
Model: 1949 Oversized 38mm Manual Winding 30MM Wristwatch Cal. 265 All Stainless Steel Jumbo Case with Original "Waffle" Textured Finish Dial with Subsidiary Seconds and Original Omega Hands.
Movement: Omega Swiss Made 15 Jewel Cal. 265 Manual Winding 30mm Movement Numbered 11946623 (1949)
Case: Stainless Steel Snap-Back Case Signed Omega Watch Co. Fab. Suisse Swiss Made Ref. 2272-4

Dennis brought my attention to the flat top on the "A", you guys don't have an opinion on that?

The asking price before any negotiation is $1250.

Thanks

V

 

2505 is the case reference number. That's the number you can punch into the vintage Omega database for information (if they have it in there).

http://www.omegawatches.com/spirit/history/vintage-omegas/vintage-watches-database

That watch is listed, but the database is incomplete. Still a great tool though.

 

I just discovered this website http://www.vintage-watches-collection.com/.
They have a nice selection of Omega and Jaeger, did you ever heard of them?

 

No, but I don't buy from dealers too often.

 

Here are my 2505's and if I remember correctly, I spent less than 500 usd for each from eBay.

 

Thank you all

 

I won't be able to add anything definitive, but that "A" looks a little different to me. It is slightly darker and a tiny bit out of alignment. That doesn't necessarily mean the dial is fake or unoriginal. It could have just been a tiny bit of a misprint, or more likely if the "A" isn't original then someone possibly could have slightly touched it up. Like if it faded a little or somehow got scratched or chipped.

 

I lean towards the dial being refinished. In addition to the comments above, the radium recesses in the markers are absolutely clean with no sign at all of where the radium has been, and behind them you can see a printed minute marker. Also, normally radium would be dotted on the quarter hour, but the 12 printed marker looks pristine. Also the cross hair appears to be done a little heavy-handedly when compared to other guilloche dials I've seen.

Cheers

Desmond

 

vico, only you can see under magnification, if any of the markers are not absolute flush with the surface/are slightly bent. there is only one reason for that; taken off by a refinisher. if it is refinished, it`s a good job. kind regards. achim

 

just out of curiosity.......Kyle's and Hoi's examples above also seems to have similarly crooked A and also has no radium dots?
I may be just wrong.

 

Here are pics of my US issue cal 502 '56 SM Calendar . . .



. . . which was acquired from the estate of the original owner. Clearly never refinished; the dagger markers bear no evidence of ever having been lumed. The hands were lumed . . .


[this image taken before servicing; crystal has been removed]

. . . but apparently, not the dial. This set of circumstances fits the pattern of many Omegas sold in the States during the period Norman Morris was the importer: movements, dials, and hands were shipped from Switzerland, but cases were produced locally. Most likely this particular dial was shipped from Bienne without lume, and matched during final assembly Stateside with lumed hands.

My gut instinct is tipped in favor of original condition for your example.

Cordially,

Art