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  1. edebon

    edebon Apr 27, 2016

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    Hello everyone, I'm a new member to the forum and would like to show my most recent purchase, a 30T2 SC RG from 1944-45. It's 33mm in 18k gold with gold hour and minute hands, blued second hand, and yes, someone did a horrible job touching up the dial about 40 years ago, even removing the chronometer lettering (possibly, I don't know for sure). This is a 16 jewel version, as they also came in 15 and 17 later on. I've spoken to Franco about this watch and he also pointed out that the crown is not original. I'm still very excited about it and would like to share some pictures. I apologize in advance for the movement pictures being lower quality, I took them with my phone.

    I absolutely love the history behind this watch and have done hours of research, reading all of Bill Sohne's and Franco's articles about these. It's a fantastic time keeper and I just thought I would share.
     
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  2. Bill Sohne

    Bill Sohne Bill @ ΩF Staff Member Apr 27, 2016

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    Hi

    Congratulations ! I rember first reading about 30 mm Rg movements , in a callout box in Anton K's Omega designs . I was on the hunt for on ever since.... The first one I found was in a flea market outside of Paris . But it was not proper to say the lest. It was not a Rg , but a 30 mm that someone swapped in a Rg balance bridge ! I was so excited when I opened th case and saw the bridge , I quickly closed it and bought it! Not knowing anything else at the time. So I compare that purchase to yours with a redial and later crown as the only issues.

    They are great time keepers , heck any 30 mm is a great time keep if not abused or mishandled .

    Enjoy it!

    Good Hunting
    Bill Sohne
     
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  3. edebon

    edebon Apr 27, 2016

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    Hey Bill, I've read just about everything you have put online about these models, if it wasn't for you and a few others I would have had no idea what this was, thank you so much. When it comes to the dial, is it worth doing a proper redial? I've been told not to because of the original patina but I'd like to hear your thoughts.
     
  4. cicindela

    cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Apr 27, 2016

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    The 30t2rg and 30t2sc rg and getting harder and harder to find with original dials. I have taken lately to look for bargains in the less than perfect examples available.

    The specimens owned by Mike and Erich put my meager offerings to shame.
    here are some illustrations.

    2364 yellow gold, original dial
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    2366, project watch, replacement Omega RG homage dial.
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    2366 stainless Rose gold bezel, redial
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    2367, Dial with script poorly refinished
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  5. kyle L

    kyle L Grasshopper Staff Member Apr 27, 2016

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    Nice watch, even with the redial. Here are my only two. :)

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  6. Pvt-Public

    Pvt-Public Apr 27, 2016

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    That 2367 looks really familiar :)
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  7. Joe K.

    Joe K. Curious about this text thingy below his avatar Apr 27, 2016

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    Kyle, you already know what I am going to say about this one.....:cool::thumbsup:


     
  8. edebon

    edebon Apr 27, 2016

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    Those are all very nice, I wish I could have each one. My girlfriend thinks I'm eccentric now because of how excited I get when I compare my watch time to NIST time.
     
  9. omegastar

    omegastar Apr 28, 2016

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  10. naidu

    naidu Apr 28, 2016

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    30T2 RG are great watches !! Congrats !

    Mine :

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  11. Bill Sohne

    Bill Sohne Bill @ ΩF Staff Member Apr 28, 2016

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    Hi
    I would leave it... just keep an eye out for a either NOS dial or a aged original dial that might be offered for sale...

    here are a some of mine.... all as found.

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  12. mac_omega

    mac_omega Apr 28, 2016

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  13. MSNWatch

    MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Apr 28, 2016

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    Erich, do you have a rough percentage of how many of these Rg watches were 33 vs. 35.5? In my rough estimation about 70-80% of them were 33mm with 20-30% 35.5
     
  14. Bill Sohne

    Bill Sohne Bill @ ΩF Staff Member Apr 28, 2016

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    Mike
    I agree with your observations on sizes....

    but also think about percentages in Steel VS Gold...

    Get feeling 70-80 % were issued in gold cases... vs Steel...

    Then you can also think about

    Screwback vs snapback cases.... Screwback 5- 10% vs snapbacks...

    just thoughts.... Erich will chime in and hope Franco too...

    Best

    bill
     
  15. MSNWatch

    MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Apr 28, 2016

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    Screwback probably closer to 5% - see only about 1-2 for sale a year. And all the screwbacks I've seen are either stainless steel or SS with gold bezel.
     
  16. Bill Sohne

    Bill Sohne Bill @ ΩF Staff Member Apr 28, 2016

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    Yea, I have a few.... one with the pink gold bezel.. never seen another in all my years... Hopefully someone will post one...

    bill
     
  17. 30t2fellow

    30t2fellow Jul 5, 2016

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    I found an RG movement without a case, I suspect it was melted for "scrap" gold - never quite understood the use of the word scrap with gold. "Hey, send us the gold you would normally just toss into the garbage and we will give you a few bucks".....

    Anyways, it is in pretty bad shape and I am on a salvage mission. I have a 38mm 18k gold case that will be its new home, and the movement/dial are going through a complete restoration. I can tell you this watch will cost me 2X what I could find an intact one for, and then will not have the proper case - BUT, I feel good about restoring a piece of history. I will post a complete write up on the project with photos once completed!

    Here is the hot mess as it stands today.
     
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  18. cicindela

    cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Jul 5, 2016

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    Interesting older refinished dial. And to think you found that in @UncleBuck 's back yard:D
    Nice find :thumbsup:
     
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  19. micampe

    micampe Jul 5, 2016

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    Oh I'm glad this thread was bumped up, I was also starting to think that the only way to get a RG is to cave and accept a redial for a good case and movement. Really hard to price them though.
     
  20. edebon

    edebon Jul 5, 2016

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    I can't wait to see this completed. Good luck in your project, I'm sure it will turn out great!