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  1. DG GW Dec 23, 2017

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    Can you guy give opinion on this watch.
    Marry Christmas, Happy Holidays and a Great New Year to every one on the forum

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  2. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Dec 23, 2017

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    Redial.
     
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  3. fanimal Dec 23, 2017

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    ^^ A nearly 80 year-old watch with a dial that pristine?
     
  4. bubba48 Dec 23, 2017

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    The age doesn't matter but the quality of the dial.

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  5. DG GW Dec 23, 2017

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    I was afraid of that
     
  6. fanimal Dec 23, 2017

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    Just for my own edification, you're saying age has no correlation with the quality of a dial?
     
  7. GuiltyBoomerang Dec 23, 2017

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    Definitely. If a watch hasn't been in a humid environment, kept safe and barely worn and/or maintained well over the years, there is no reason why it can still look as good as the day it started to be worn on someone's wrist. Of course, some people just buy brand new watches, never get the chance to wear them, and these are then hoarded by collectors...
     
  8. mac_omega Dec 24, 2017

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    IMO this is not a completely redone dial but a partly re-print...

    Let me explain:

    This dial seems to be a galvano sandwich dial (some call it guilt which is not a good description IMO)

    There are 2 layers of galvanic plating (silver and black), hence the subsecond and minute track look blurry as they are not printed but created by the galvanic process.

    I think only the Omega logo and the wording has been re-printed as the font looks a bit off for the era

    As I am not a native English speaker - I hope I could explain it in a way that the native speakers understand and don´t crucify me ;)
     
  9. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Dec 24, 2017

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    You just did a pretty good job IMO! Don’t sell yourself short!
     
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  10. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Dec 24, 2017

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    There seems to be some bleeding of the partial numeral “6” into the sub-dial.

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    I think it is a older redial. Very good quality work.

    Also, I don’t think the seconds hand is original.
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  11. François Pépin Dec 24, 2017

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    I do not think this kind of bleeding is necessary a sign of redial. It can be seen on genuine dial of this period, in particular 30 cal.

    I find Erich's explanation very convincing. I was not sure the prints were redone, but I will defer to his expertise.
     
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  12. mario linus Dec 24, 2017

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    All hands seem not to be original
     
  13. Oku Dec 24, 2017

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    Yep, this "bleeding" is quite common on black and gilt dials.
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    Any watch with the dial above have this.
     
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  14. bubba48 Dec 24, 2017

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    There are a lot of imperfections. Too many for Omega.

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    Moreover I think it's near impossible a "partial" reprint
     
  15. François Pépin Dec 24, 2017

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    Could be a good redial. But one has to consider that these old guilted or "sandwich" dial - as Erich named them - can loose some color. And old dials are not always prefect...
     
  16. Nathan1967 Dec 24, 2017

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    The same Seller is also selling this Dial with Movement. The movement No. is No.9026019.

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    The serial no. of this movement relates better to the sellers advert for a 1939 Watch. This Dial looks more original to my eyes, but with more Patina - is the OP watch a bit of a redial with a Franken movement per chance?
     
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  17. DG GW Dec 24, 2017

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    Thank you for the picture this is really helping me on honing my skills to detect redial. I have only been collecting vintage Omegas for about three years. It has been really slow going for me on learning how to detect redials.
     
  18. Modest_Proposal Trying too hard to be one of the cool kids Dec 24, 2017

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    A number of the issues you have with the dial are due to crystal distortion or lighting. Others are not.
     
  19. Oku Dec 24, 2017

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    Dial is too small for the OP's watch. Watch is 37.5mm and has a dial of 34.5mm, not 30.5.

     
  20. Nathan1967 Dec 24, 2017

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    Thanks @Oku my game is still errr lame!