Gentlemen, what do you think of this dial? In my ignorance I can't see anything wrong but a friend thinks it's a redial,





This is the inner caseback:



Thank you.

 

The 'Omega' text looks pretty good and the minute marks are very consistent to my admittedly minimally-trained eye. I failed horribly looking for 2902 examples in the Omega vintage database for comparison, and even my Google skills have let me down.

 

Looks good. I don't believe it's a redial. Looks very nice for its age. I don't care for gold plate though.

 

I'd be more concerned about the hands than the dial.

Art

 

Thank you guys. Let's see if we get more opinions.

Thank you, what would be your concern about hands?

 

I found one of the same reference, year (1956) and movement (284):
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/omega-cal-284-tone-dial-year-1956-251798973

 

Looks pretty close to the reference to me, though I questioned the hands as well initially. Crowns are different though.

 

Thank you. The second crown looks out of place, mine looks to me more adequate although no idea if original. I see nothing wrong about hands though: look period correct to me, lume is consistent with that on markers (not seen well on pics) and length ceased to be a concern after I joined OF and was educated that minute hand should not necessarily stop at recessed? markers. The 30mm thread is full of such hands + markers, some in Sales Forum too.

 

Any more input? Thanks!

 

Check edge of dial at 3:00 and see if a little indent. Looks to be one, but not 100%, but usually an indication of a redial

Then again. Could be an age spot

DON

 

Thank you, DON. Watchmaker says no indent at 3 (he has it now for service). For future reference, could you explain why indent at 3 would be sign of redial? Only at 3 or anywhere at the edge?

More opinions more than welcome.

 

The dial refinishers would put the indent in the dial as a sign the dial had been refinished.

 

The indent mark is actually used by the refinisher to line up the dial for reprinting.

They use the four main points on the dial. 3, 6, 9 or 12, but each one uses what they're comfortable with

Once the origin dial paint is removed. The refinished needs to know the proper orientation of the dial to avoid printing upside down or sideways, so the indent tells him which way to position the dial in the pad printer

DON

 

Thank you so much! That was my piece of learning today

 

Thank you

 

It's unusual for both minute and sweep seconds hands to pass the minutes markers. One or the other isn't remarkable, but not both.

Art

 

Not likely, just someone didnt unscrew the dial foot screw enough, or the dial refinishers used something grabby and dimpled it. If someone sent back a dial with a dimple that wasnt there, it would be a big issue for me and the owner would never accept that.

 

Looks like a small notch there to me, so maybe have him take another look...

 

I'll do, thank you

Interesting that no one has yet pointed out to any hard give-away on dial itself, meaning if it is a redial it's a reeeally good one, since there are so many small details that normally reveal a redial no matter how good it is...

 

More likely they used it as a centering mark to locate 3:00 so the printing would lineup. Have not seen how refinishers setup a dial for printing, but its common for them to come back a few degrees off and have to go back for a reprint under warranty. All watchmakers have a first quality and el cheapo quality refinishing company, unless their prefered dial refinisher is both!
Some companies do better on vintage american dials li,e elgin hamilton bulova ruen, and some do better on swiss dials like Omega, GP, rolex etc