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  1. sohail Oct 28, 2017

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    D3E6EF69-9480-46F6-9B1C-97CE66F4F9DB.jpeg Hi Recently saw this omega cal 2782 with this unusual dial . Experts are requested to comments . Regards
     
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  3. Giff2577 Quick with the tools! Oct 28, 2017

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    I like the textured dial. IMG_6230.JPG
     
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  4. cristos71 Oct 28, 2017

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    Never seen one before, thanks for the heads-up @cristos71 !
     
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  7. sohail Oct 28, 2017

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    Well guys there has to be something more to this story then declaring it a reprint . So far there are three different watches posted in this forum . All are 2782 , cal 354, same textured dials . Fonts and crosshair is the same . It is not possible that the same redialer found three 2782s , all with bad dials and repainted them exactly the same. 5A356AC9-AA3A-406C-8FA1-A7B8D96878D3.jpeg D75A8A30-7BE6-45E4-8D2F-697F327CCC23.jpeg
     
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  9. TNTwatch Oct 28, 2017

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    There are already 3 of them in the 1st thread Cristo linked. Yours would the 4th. It's not just the letter prints are the same, but the surface finish is exactly the same on all of them.
     
  10. sohail Oct 28, 2017

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    To prove my point Seamaster Deville is a very common model EFAEFA1A-9D61-4F35-86A1-EDBFA55563E4.png
     
  12. Giff2577 Quick with the tools! Oct 28, 2017

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    . The fact that all examples are similar is encouraging, but I would not bring up the Deville as that has no bearing on your argument that this double signed dial is original.
     
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  13. sohail Oct 28, 2017

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    What I am trying to say is that omega in 50s and 60s have done some unusual things like producing railmaster by the name of seamaster for PAF. Ranchero and seamaster 30 in 2990 and 2996 cases etc. This constellation/seamaster in my humble experience and opinion is also omega produced watches . What we need to find out is why and for who?
     
  14. TropicConnie Oct 29, 2017

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    The dials certainly look the quality of an Omega original to me, but I do wonder why they are sub-branded with the Seamaster name when the Constellation was already everything a Seamaster was, and more.
     
  15. sohail Oct 29, 2017

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    Some more snaps of the dial . I’ll get it opened today for more details 95C6DF57-E794-4E9E-90B7-0B3EB39DE9CA.jpeg AAD2D477-B10E-41A7-82BE-D796F091B888.jpeg
     
  16. Dero13 4 watches. All set to the wrong time. Oct 29, 2017

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    I've seen a bunch of these and all look consistent so I would lean to this not being a redial. Would love to know the story behind these. If I remember correctly most seem to come from Asia
     
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  17. cristos71 Oct 29, 2017

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    Agreed, Omega did do some interesting things regarding name changes in this period.

    Regarding these Seastellation's or Conmaster's, AFAIK most of these 4 or 5 known watches pieces have originated in Asia, and have been found in the last 3 or 4 years. I have never seen that dial texture on another Constellation.The textured dials that I have seen on Constellations have always been what are known as waffle or hobnail, part or full dial. I have only ever seen this diamond pattern textured dial on Seamaster's like @Giff2577 example.

    They do raise fair questions though as they all are 2782's and from what I've seen they all have 1400xxxx serial numbers which puts them around 1954. For me even though the printing looks good I find the concept of a Constellation-Seamaster very confused, it just doesn't sit right and I can't think of a logical reason for such a Constellation-Seamaster. One was the top of the line dress watch and the other was a "rugged" dress watch for the sporty type. There were already solid 18kt gold Seamaster chronometre's which are as good both asthetically and technically as their Constellation kin. What would a combination of the two be for? And would Omega really sanction such a breeding program?

    What I'd like to see to be more convinced that this is a special hybrid double print factory original dial would be some examples of cal 354 Seamaster chronometer's with this diamond textured dial with the text printed in the lower half of the dial. Or likewise a Constellation with the same dial effect. At least that would bring some natural cohesion to the story. I don't ever recall seeing such a Seamaster chronometer and I've certainly never seen a Constellation with a dial texture like that.
     
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  18. sohail Oct 29, 2017

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    Dial has the same base as the hybrid seamaster chronometer as shown in the picture above. If u observe closely the seamaster has 12. 3.6.9 markers which are mounted perpendicular with perpendicular holes to fit in the base plate. The constellation has small 12.3.6.9 markers which are fitted parallel in the base plate. Had the redialler fitted the small parallel markers in the seamaster dial the parpendicular holes would be visible or filled , which is not the case. Also note that all the 4 constellation makers are exactly the same and are different than the usual constellations of the same era. In order to resolve the reprint issue I’ll get the watch open up and post pics of the dials back side, may be that will help the experts.
     
  19. sohail Oct 29, 2017

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    The idea is to explore something new than discussing the USUALS . Few years back the Kenyan Air Force Heuer Autavia with Arabic markers were considered to be fake or reprints but now they are collector watches.
     
  20. cristos71 Oct 29, 2017

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    I'm no expert, I'm always open for all new discussion on a topic, and I'd never be so presumptuous as to directly discount yours or others theories on these, but if you run back through those links there has already been quite some discussion.

    Still for me the "why" is much more interesting than the "how" regarding their production, if you can answer that I'm all ears!