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"Officially" Certified 30t2rg Chronometre?

  1. noelekal

    noelekal Apr 12, 2015

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  2. Tom Dick

    Tom Dick and Harry Apr 12, 2015

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    I saw that too the dial is quite interesting
     
  3. mac_omega

    mac_omega Apr 12, 2015

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    I think at least the "Officially" Certified" has been added later - could also be an old restoration job...
    Seller swears it to be 100% original - but as you might know: which seller really knows the stuff he is offering :cautious:
     
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  4. j.allen

    j.allen Apr 12, 2015

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    I don't know; to me this dial looks original. "Officially Certified" I think is genuinely marked. Unfortunately it's hard to tell from a mediocre photo.
     
  5. kyle L

    kyle L Grasshopper Staff Member Apr 12, 2015

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    First time seeing that on a 30T2RG...I wish the pictures were better.
     
  6. Fritz

    Fritz genuflects before the mighty quartzophobe Apr 12, 2015

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    Is that "12" straight..... smells a bit fishy to me.
     
  7. Pvt-Public

    Pvt-Public Apr 14, 2015

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    If it makes any difference, there is no "Officially Certified" on my 30T2 SC RG. But it is a center seconds and a bit earlier with a 10,51x,xxx movement number.
     
  8. Modest_Proposal

    Modest_Proposal Trying too hard to be one of the cool kids Apr 16, 2015

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    I would say after a closer inspection that it's original:
     
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  9. noelekal

    noelekal Apr 16, 2015

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    Well...look-y there!

    Sure looks a lot happier in your photos.
     
  10. gatorcpa

    gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Apr 16, 2015

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    Without seeing the movement serial number, I can't say for sure, but it is possible that this watch was readied for sale after 1951. That was the year that Omega (and other Swiss brands) were required to submit movements for testing in order to use the words "Officially Certified" on the dial.

    [​IMG]

    You'll see some familiar names in this thread.

    http://omega.watchprosite.com/?show=forumpostf&fi=677&pi=5624973&ti=832198&s=0

    I think this where I invited Achim over to OF.
    gatorcpa
     
  11. kyle L

    kyle L Grasshopper Staff Member Apr 16, 2015

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    Serial is 10.9 mil from the ebay ad.
     
  12. gatorcpa

    gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Apr 16, 2015

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    Hmmm...[​IMG]

    The printing looks original, but the serial number sequence is a few years before the dials needed to be marked that way.

    This might be a job for the Omega Museum.

    Or someone with AJTT?
    gatorcpa

    Edit - Or maybe there is a clue here with this watch which also looks to have had the printing added to the dial:

    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    http://www.batei.com/omega.30t2rg281.htm
     
    Edited Apr 16, 2015
  13. UncleBuck

    UncleBuck understands the decision making hierarchy Apr 16, 2015

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    Page 187 of AJTT shows the same watch in a 1948 German advert. without the "OC".

    With the font style differences between "OC" and Chronometre and the time period, I wonder if it was an old inventory piece "updated " to the latest and greatest?

    Whatever it is, it sure is beautiful!

    Brian, did you buy it?
     
  14. Modest_Proposal

    Modest_Proposal Trying too hard to be one of the cool kids Apr 16, 2015

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    I looked at it very closely with a with a loupe and I'm convinced it's the same print quality and depth as "Omega" and "Chronometre".

    I did buy it, after a steep discount. Still, I'm not sure if I want to hang onto it. I will have to find a new balance wheel. Aren't they different from a standard 30t2 balance wheel?
     
  15. gatorcpa

    gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Apr 16, 2015

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    Excellent. Think you're getting the hang of this research thing!

    I think the balance wheel is interchangeable with the standard 30T2, but it is highly unlikely you will find one at a parts supplier. You will need to look for a donor movement.

    Good luck,
    gatorcpa
     
  16. mac_omega

    mac_omega Apr 17, 2015

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    I am pretty sure this is not an original dial for this ref.! As a SC chronometer it should have 1/5 seconds track, not the regular one...
    And the wrong hands do indicate that some changes might have been done to the watch...
     
  17. rolexfantastic

    rolexfantastic Apr 17, 2015

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    Very interesting catch. I have not seen prior to this a RG or RG SC with an Officially Certified marking.
    I believe it's a later addition as this may have not been possible prior to 1951/2, @gatorcpa already mentioned why.
    I though that the first manual with this marking was the Synchrobeat 372 SC.
     
  18. Matty01

    Matty01 Port Adelaide's No.1 Fan Apr 26, 2015

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    Pls le
    Please let me know if you choose to sell
     
  19. davidswiss

    davidswiss Apr 26, 2015

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    I can't think of a reason why anyone would add "officially certified" to a watch already marked as a chronometer unless, as unclebuck says, it was old inventory that was updated before sale. Looks nice though. Good luck with the work on the movement. Who will you get to do it ?