October 5th 2020 - Snoopy Celebration

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Fair enough, and I tend to agree. I'm not sure how often I'll actually "watch" the animation at this point, although I know my kids love it, but I can easily imagine being delighted when I do. And for all those other occasions, I'll rely on the movement, the 3-dimensional effects of the dial, applied indices, striking colour, enamelled inlay, etc. And if all else fails, I won't pony up the balance for the watch or will move it along.

I guess I'm saying that the combo of elements in this Snoopy that appeal to you should ideally outweigh those that don't or that actively turn you off. I feel like I made that mistake with the Speedy Pro, and remedied it with the FOIS, which has a balance of virtues I prefer, although I can certainly imagine (and read about a thousand pages worth of opinions from) others being happier going the other way.

I also feel like the line between "charming" and "kitsch" can seem alarmingly thin. Having discounted the recent Speedy LE after absorbing the endless "Buzz Butt" commentary I got to handle one a few weeks ago at an event. It's really beautiful in the metal, and I honestly barely noticed the floating Buzz until I looked for it, and when I did it was the quality of the workmanship rather than the fact I was staring at an arse in space through a loupe that struck me. So, charmed when I expected to be kitsched.

So am I counting on gazing at the back of a Snoopy 3 every morning as I wind the watch? No, but I fully expect to be charmed when I do, and that plus everything else I like about the watch make it worth it for me at this point, despite the extravagance of the outlay.

it’s ironic if you’re referring to the Apollo 11 50th Moonwatch because that’s next on my list...I think it’s absolutely stunning. I’m just not prepared to pay more than a grand over RRP.. Just purchased the Bond NTTD mesh so will enjoy that for now, then the Snoopy before hunting down the Apollo 11.
 
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Whether it's cute, charming or something else I don't think anyone should get too fussed over how many seconds Snoopy is doing this or doing that, when he appears or disappears, or it's relationship to earth, etc. It's just a fun complication, don't overthink it. For instance, the only view of earth that a human would see that particular rotation of the planet is looking straight down on the north pole, and the actual rotational speed would be 1/1,440 of that shown on the back (60 minutes x 24 hours). That view has no importance to space travel, the disc is there only to show a moving earth in the sky, albeit at a greatly increased speed.
 
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Whether it's cute, charming or something else I don't think anyone should get too fussed over how many seconds Snoopy is doing this or doing that, when he appears or disappears, or it's relationship to earth, etc. It's just a fun complication, don't overthink it. For instance, the only view of earth that a human would see that particular rotation of the planet is looking straight down on the north pole, and the actual rotational speed would be 1/1,440 of that shown on the back (60 minutes x 24 hours). That view has no importance to space travel, the disc is there only to show a moving earth in the sky, albeit at a greatly increased speed.
Adds to the history for those who value it (the critical 14 seconds)
 
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Adds to the history for those who value it (the critical 14 seconds)

Ummm...well Snoopy would be going the other way to earth wouldn’t he, for people to really value the critical 14 seconds. 😉
 
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Ummm...well Snoopy would be going the other way to earth wouldn’t he, for people to really value the critical 14 seconds. 😉
I still want the watch!!!
 
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I suppose it could be likened to shining an ultra-violet light at a fictional Japanese cartoon character in a dark cupboard as I do sometimes...😁
 
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Anyone have any ideas on when they will start delivering these watches? Would love to take this on my vacay end of Nov
 
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Anyone have any ideas on when they will start delivering these watches? Would love to take this on my vacay end of Nov

End of November apparently
 
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Anyone have any ideas on when they will start delivering these watches? Would love to take this on my vacay end of Nov

Omega is now saying December-January for the first lot, according to my AD; with "inside of 6 months" as the probability. My guess is that OBs see them first, with the ADs after until the first production is sold through, and then we do it all over again in 2022.
 
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Anyone have any ideas on when they will start delivering these watches? Would love to take this on my vacay end of Nov
Yes by Nov 2021 you should have it!
 
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Whether it's cute, charming or something else I don't think anyone should get too fussed over how many seconds Snoopy is doing this or doing that, when he appears or disappears, or it's relationship to earth, etc. It's just a fun complication, don't overthink it. For instance, the only view of earth that a human would see that particular rotation of the planet is looking straight down on the north pole, and the actual rotational speed would be 1/1,440 of that shown on the back (60 minutes x 24 hours). That view has no importance to space travel, the disc is there only to show a moving earth in the sky, albeit at a greatly increased speed.

I think it does matter for some people at this price point. If you are buying this as a peanuts fan, then sure it probably won't matter to you. However, if you're buying this as a space/NASA/Apollo 13 fan, then it might start to get annoying after a while. They are marketing this watch entirely around the flight path of the spacecraft's safe return, so I would expect that there's some accuracy there... (the flight path on the strap, snoopy award, caseback, etc). Wasn't the whole campaign centered around the accuracy of time, and the importance that had on the successful flightpath? At $10k USD, its not exactly a cheap watch and when you decide to price it there along with the NASA positioning, you lose the option of just ignoring specifics and creating only a "fun complication." with historical accuracy only as an afterthought.

I'm by no means a space enthusiast, nor do I work in the industry. In fact, I initially didn't care much about the significance but the more I thought about it the more I became interested. It's not a make or break for me, but I think a more accurate representation would help those who think the back is gimmicky.

Regarding the movement of the earth, I don't expect to be realistic because this watch isn't marketed or focused around the rotation of the earth. The rotation of the earth was not the critical variable here in terms of mission success. As you also pointed out, the reason to speed it up is understandable in order to showcase a noticeable movement. 14 seconds is much easier to represent in visual real time movement vs ~86k sec (24hours), that there is no reason to not make an accurate representation here.
 
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The release with originally end of October early November. Not entirely sure if that was official, surprised to see the feedback stating December now.

Didn’t expect a push back in fact I’d have thought OBs would have the first pieces on of immediately after release day considering the lack of press this year
 
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I think it does matter for some people at this price point. If you are buying this as a peanuts fan, then sure it probably won't matter to you. However, if you're buying this as a space/NASA/Apollo 13 fan, then it might start to get annoying after a while. They are marketing this watch entirely around the flight path of the spacecraft's safe return, so I would expect that there's some accuracy there... (the flight path on the strap, snoopy award, caseback, etc). Wasn't the whole campaign centered around the accuracy of time, and the importance that had on the successful flightpath? At $10k USD, its not exactly a cheap watch and when you decide to price it there along with the NASA positioning, you lose the option of just ignoring specifics and creating only a "fun complication." with historical accuracy only as an afterthought.

I'm by no means a space enthusiast, nor do I work in the industry. In fact, I initially didn't care much about the significance but the more I thought about it the more I became interested. It's not a make or break for me, but I think a more accurate representation would help those who think the back is gimmicky.

Regarding the movement of the earth, I don't expect to be realistic because this watch isn't marketed or focused around the rotation of the earth. The rotation of the earth was not the critical variable here in terms of mission success. As you also pointed out, the reason to speed it up is understandable in order to showcase a noticeable movement. 14 seconds is much easier to represent in visual real time movement vs ~86k sec (24hours), that there is no reason to not make an accurate representation here.
Excuse me but... are you serious? It’s not an astronomical demonstration, it’s just a watch remembering how Snoopy once saved the day, so they display it in a Snoopy way.
 
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I think it does matter for some people at this price point. If you are buying this as a peanuts fan, then sure it probably won't matter to you. However, if you're buying this as a space/NASA/Apollo 13 fan, then it might start to get annoying after a while. They are marketing this watch entirely around the flight path of the spacecraft's safe return, so I would expect that there's some accuracy there... (the flight path on the strap, snoopy award, caseback, etc). Wasn't the whole campaign centered around the accuracy of time, and the importance that had on the successful flightpath? At $10k USD, its not exactly a cheap watch and when you decide to price it there along with the NASA positioning, you lose the option of just ignoring specifics and creating only a "fun complication." with historical accuracy only as an afterthought.

I'm by no means a space enthusiast, nor do I work in the industry. In fact, I initially didn't care much about the significance but the more I thought about it the more I became interested. It's not a make or break for me, but I think a more accurate representation would help those who think the back is gimmicky.

Regarding the movement of the earth, I don't expect to be realistic because this watch isn't marketed or focused around the rotation of the earth. The rotation of the earth was not the critical variable here in terms of mission success. As you also pointed out, the reason to speed it up is understandable in order to showcase a noticeable movement. 14 seconds is much easier to represent in visual real time movement vs ~86k sec (24hours), that there is no reason to not make an accurate representation here.

So much ado over a delightfully famous comic character and their significance of their representation in this instance(award) and the only 14(but most critical) seconds out of a flight path that spanned days.

I think people need to lighten up a lot more and not be so pernickety😉
 
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Excuse me but... are you serious? It’s not an astronomical demonstration, it’s just a watch remembering how Snoopy once saved the day, so they display it in a Snoopy way.

That's the thing.
Snoopy didn't save the day.
Nor did Snoopy provide any hope or inspiration during the entire period of the crisis.

It was an award given to the Speedy for it's most critical roll at a particularly crucial but brief period in time, in getting what was left of the Apollo 13 mission home.

It's just a bit of light-hearted fun😀
 
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The more I see of this watch the less I like it. Maybe it's time to pull the deposit and find another watch to love.
 
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The more I see of this watch the less I like it. Maybe it's time to pull the deposit and find another watch to love.

What's changing your mind?

I like it a lot, and have put down a deposit, but will wait to see it in the metal before plunking down the rest of the asking. Don't think I can determine one way or another w/o actually trying it on, especially the bezel and subdial colours, overall wearability ease of winding, given how persnickety I found the Pro I owned vs the FOIS I have now. Plenty of gorgeous watches in this price range if it doesn't work out.
 
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The more I see of this watch the less I like it. Maybe it's time to pull the deposit and find another watch to love.
I love it, I love it not, l love it, l love it not, I love it, I love it not, repeat for the next 12 months
 
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I love it, I love it not, l love it, l love it not, I love it, I love it not, repeat for the next 12 months
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Omega is now saying December-January for the first lot, according to my AD; with "inside of 6 months" as the probability. My guess is that OBs see them first, with the ADs after until the first production is sold through, and then we do it all over again in 2022.
This one in the UK at the end of October 2020