NTTD Seamaster 300 D

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Hi, I have recently purchased a Seamaster NTTD. Very pleased with it apart from the lume. It is not very bright, especially the hands. Any other owners experience the same?
Thanks in advance. Chas
 
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I don't own the Seamaster NTTD but can you outline what you mean when you say "the lume is not very bright?" The PURPOSE of Lume is to make a watch readable in low-light conditions, while also NOT having a negative impact on the viewer's night vision. The purpose of lume is ultimately not "to look fancy." It has a use case.

The lume should last through the night and be legible even hours after daylight light exposure to a degree that if you wake up in the middle of the night with your eyes adjusted to low light, it should be legible.

Question: have you allowed your eyes *three full minutes* to become accustomed to the dark room you are in, before looking at or judging whether or not the lume is "bright enough?"

EDIT to add: I will say that the NTTD has lume just on the point of the hands, and I can see this being a complaint IF you're used to a full lumed hand. The only Omega I own is a SM300MC, and it did take me a couple of days to adjust to the fact that only the arrowhead of the hour hand is lumed. Now that I'm used to it, it's totally fine though.

Also, congratulations on your new watch! I think the NTTD is quite attractive and like that they went with a sort of warm vintage brown.
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Frankly the lume on all of the current model Seamaster 300's seems to be not super bright. Mine holds a charge all night, but not bright enough for my old eyes to actually figure out what time it is
 
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I don't own the Seamaster NTTD but can you outline what you mean when you say "the lume is not very bright?" The PURPOSE of Lume is to make a watch readable in low-light conditions, while also NOT having a negative impact on the viewer's night vision. The purpose of lume is ultimately not "to look fancy." It has a use case.

The lume should last through the night and be legible even hours after daylight light exposure to a degree that if you wake up in the middle of the night with your eyes adjusted to low light, it should be legible.

Question: have you allowed your eyes *three full minutes* to become accustomed to the dark room you are in, before looking at or judging whether or not the lume is "bright enough?"

EDIT to add: I will say that the NTTD has lume just on the point of the hands, and I can see this being a complaint IF you're used to a full lumed hand. The only Omega I own is a SM300MC, and it did take me a couple of days to adjust to the fact that only the arrowhead of the hour hand is lumed. Now that I'm used to it, it's totally fine though.

Also, congratulations on your new watch! I think the NTTD is quite attractive and like that they went with a sort of warm vintage brown.

Most of the time the lume is that poor in a dark room it is not possible to read the time. Everything else about the watch I love. So the poor lume is disappointing.
 
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Frankly the lume on all of the current model Seamaster 300's seems to be not super bright. Mine holds a charge all night, but not bright enough for my old eyes to actually figure out what time it is

I have noticed this on all the new watches compared to older ones I have. I suspect it is the switch to blue-lume over the older green lume. Human eyes (at least most) are more sensitive to yellow-green color than others, especially in dim light. Never understood why the big switch to blue over yellow-green.
 
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I'd have to agree, we definitely see the classic green lume a lot better than the Modern Blue. Hopefully watchmakers will move away from that.

Most of my previous watches have had green yellow lume, my current seamaster is the first the incorporates blue. It is a touch dimmer to my eye than others but still legible.

Human eyes have two different cones that can detect the green yellow wavelength of light (of 3 types). Too bad we don't have a gecko's double-cone setup.


I have noticed this on all the new watches compared to older ones I have. I suspect it is the switch to blue-lume over the older green lume. Human eyes (at least most) are more sensitive to yellow-green color than others, especially in dim light. Never understood why the big switch to blue over yellow-green.
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Yes, the lume on all skeleton hand 300M models is horrible, there is simply not enough of it in the hands to be usable in normal conditions. It only looks good when charged.

The thin parts of the skeleton hands fade very quickly and you’re left with the tips of the hands (dot and triangle) floating around somewhere on the dial. They themselves are also less bright than the indices that have thick luminous material applied.

If good visibility at night is your priority, the 300M ranks very low among its competitors.
 
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The lume on mine is fine....
We are not speaking about fully charged lume here but the easiness to read the time in a dark room in real life circumstances.
 
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We are not speaking about fully charged lume here but the easiness to read the time in a dark room in real life circumstances.

I have not had a problem with my 2022 Seamaster 300m, I woke up at 4:00am and I could see the time when my eyes focused. Please see my two pictures, first is half charged Lume and the other half normal. The second photo is fully charged lume.
 
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I have not had a problem with my 2022 Seamaster 300m, I woke up at 4:00am and I could see the time when my eyes focused. Please see my two pictures, first is half charged Lume and the other half normal. The second photo is fully charged lume.
Well the part of your first pic with discharged lume says it all. This is not what you call good lume that is usable enough to read the time in the dark with only a quick glace, like with many other divers.

This shouldn't even be point of debate, the skeletonized hands contain less luminous material so they are less bright, that's just a fact. They are there for nice aesthetics, not functionality.

Hafiz shows this nicely in his review (around minute 7)
 
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I have no complaints about the lume and can read it at night. I don't have the NTTD. I have the green Seamaster.
 
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This is the 2254.50 besides a lorus with full lume dial fully charged. The old 2250 last until morning, the Lorus does not. I understand OP , lume is important.
 
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Well the part of your first pic with discharged lume says it all. This is not what you call good lume that is usable enough to read the time in the dark with only a quick glace, like with many other divers.

This shouldn't even be point of debate, the skeletonized hands contain less luminous material so they are less bright, that's just a fact. They are there for nice aesthetics, not functionality.

Hafiz shows this nicely in his review (around minute 7)

Well let’s agree to disagree, I have no problem with the lume. Maybe you are wanting a search light on your wrist
 
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I have no complaints about the lume and can read it at night. I don't have the NTTD. I have the green Seamaster.
Still love the Green Seamaster too! Can’t say enough compliments about it.
 
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We are not speaking about fully charged lume here but the easiness to read the time in a dark room in real life circumstances.
The issue with talking about lume is that it is a function of how dark it is, how long your eyes have had to adapt to the dark AND the quality of the lume. My Pelagos and NTTD last well past 5 in the morning if I've gone to bed by 11. Of course, if I looked at my iPhone and then back at my watch, it would seem like there was no lume. It is simply conditional and not easily quantifiable.
 
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The issue with talking about lume is that it is a function of how dark it is, how long your eyes have had to adapt to the dark AND the quality of the lume. My Pelagos and NTTD last well past 5 in the morning if I've gone to bed by 11. Of course, if I looked at my iPhone and then back at my watch, it would seem like there was no lume. It is simply conditional and not easily quantifiable.

Truth. In that light, I consider the current Seamaster adequate.
 
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Aside from the bright, what’s the right color for the lume?

Mine (and I see others) is more light green. But a guy who recently have bought a NTTD show me his one, and it looks very blue.