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NOS Constellation pie pan 551???

  1. neilw

    neilw Dec 20, 2014

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    I'm new to collecting Omega and am looking for a constellation with date. I saw this on German ebay advertised as used but 'like new NOS'. Consequently v high price, but prices here in UK are high too.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231424034638?trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:ITPurchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network

    But when I looked closely it looked like a redial with incorrect hands.
    I queried with vendor who said "clearly you know nothing about Omegas..."
    Is it really ok? Neil

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  2. omegastar

    omegastar Dec 20, 2014

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    The 12 O'clock marker is not straight with the rest, there is a problem !!!
    The price is for a solid 18k model.
     
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  3. dsio Ω 2

    dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Dec 20, 2014

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    551 is a non-date movement although the watch clearly has a date, I actually had a double take looking at the lugs... at one point that thing was a dogleg case, I almost thought it was one of the curved lug cases from the pics until seeing the side of the lug where its been polished so hard its worn right through the gold capping. That's meant to be a highly faceted / sharp edged case believe it or not.
     
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  4. cristos71 Ω 2

    cristos71 Dec 20, 2014

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    Not to mention the re-dial, over polished case, ill fitting yellow gold crown and lack of movement pictures...

    ....as for the price:eek::confused::cautious:
     
  5. Archer Ω 2

    Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Dec 20, 2014

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    The 6 o'clock marker also appears to be misaligned, but not as bad as the one at 12. Also, the dial printing does not line up at the 5 o'clock marker. Lots of problems with this one...
     
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  6. RawArcher Ω 1

    RawArcher Measures thread drift on the Richter Scale Dec 20, 2014

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    I have no watch expertise, but do have some people expertise. If a seller responds to any question with an insult........run. No exceptions.
     
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  7. Sherbie

    Sherbie Dec 20, 2014

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    agree, leave this munter watch and the seller with his delusions. in the meantime, keep looking and keep asking this forum for verification before you buy anything. you wont regret it
     
  8. cicindela Ω 2

    cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Dec 20, 2014

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    massacred watch, Run!
     
  9. neilw

    neilw Dec 20, 2014

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    Thanks for the reassurance. Do sellers get away with this stuff? Isn't it fraud?
     
  10. dsio Ω 2

    dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Dec 20, 2014

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    Its eBay so yes, they do get away with it. Buyers just have to be careful and educated.
     
  11. X350 XJR Ω 1

    X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Dec 20, 2014

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    Until proven otherwise, I personally think the entire watch, perhaps with the exception of the movement is counterfeit. The dial and case are off too much.

    Figures on the dial are not crisp enough and the small stars on the back are to large.
     
  12. Darlinboy Ω 2

    Darlinboy Pratts! Will I B******S!!! Dec 20, 2014

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    So is it a good watch or not?

    If good, is the price OK?
     
  13. cicindela Ω 2

    cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Dec 20, 2014

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    Please post pictures when you get it.:D
     
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  14. X350 XJR Ω 1

    X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Dec 20, 2014

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    RUN AWAY.

    Not even close to NOS and at the very least contains suspect parts (case back, dial).
     
  15. cicindela Ω 2

    cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Dec 20, 2014

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    Our Darlin' is just being a Darling.
     
  16. X350 XJR Ω 1

    X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Dec 20, 2014

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    Some people don't know him that well.
     
  17. Selbo

    Selbo Dec 20, 2014

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    This is where I come back with my best offer of $1.
     
  18. scook94

    scook94 Dec 20, 2014

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    Queried it with the seller. He now says it's a cal. 561. Claims it was misread from a handwritten document. His reply was quite polite.
     
  19. ulackfocus

    ulackfocus Dec 20, 2014

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    Who cares about a typo on the caliber number - that watch is a POS, not NOS.
     
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  20. Alpha Ω 2

    Alpha Kilt Owner, Beagle Parent, Omega Collector Dec 20, 2014

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    Just love "munter watch" :D