Greetings everyone,

I was posting this question already in another thread however it may have been too hidden so I try this one again here:

I am wondering if there is a way to find out more about the history of a watch being imported to the USA by Norman Morris? Is there still a kind of an archive existing? In particular I'm looking for the information regarding my Speedmaster.
Does anybody know how many of these Speedmasters have been imported to the USA by Norman Morris in the years
- 1963
- 1964
- 1965
All your information is highly appreciated.

Thank you
Markus

 

it's in the omega archives

for your watch in particular https://www.omegawatches.com/de/customer-service/extract-of-the-archives

 

where did u get this info ?

you have the counter part record info from omegas point of view but in the end it's the same

 

I suggest u check the article about how the onega archives work at Fratello site and u will see that its different than u think....

 

correct and all i said the info is still there but would be a huge amount of work to answer this question (how many omegas in total), which also makes no sense.
we should be happy that they offer individual extracts

 

Thank you for your answer and hint to the archives. My point is, that I have already tried to get the extract but was unfortunately refused. I know however that my particular watch was sent and sold in the US. I'm wondering to find out more here, but it seems to be almost impossible. Very sad.....

 

sad to hear but then i see 0 chance to find out more about it .... as u wear the watch on your wrist and not the archive, enjoy it and waer the hell out of it

 

Did they mention why it was refused? How do you know that it was sent and sold in the US? The most frequent cause for refusal is due to the serial number provided not matching the reference provided.

For instance, if you're looking for a Speedmaster from 1963-65, then I assume the reference you submitted was a 105.003 or 105.012 of some sort, along with the serial number of the cal. 321 inside of it. But the cal 321 was also used in Seamaster chronographs. So, if the serial that you submitted originally belonged in a Seamaster, but you submitted a Speedmaster reference, they would come back to you and say that nothing could be found - not because there isn't archived information for your movement, but because there is no such speedmaster matching your movement serial. In these situations, the issue is because the movement in question did not originally belong to that watch.

 

thas't the possible reason

he know cuz the movement is stamped with OXG which is the US import stamp for omega

 

Thank you! This is a very interesting point indeed. So if I would ask for the serial by itself they may tell me where it was installed originally? would that work?
I'll give it a try.....

 

I believe you are going to have to give a reference number, to my knowledge. I don't think they will look one up without it.

I don't have much personal experience in this so others will be able to advise better, but from what I have read the cal 321 was most commonly used in Seamaster chronographs (aside from the Speedmaster, obviously). I'm not sure what Seamaster reference number would be most appropriate - perhaps something like a 105.001, which I believe was somewhere around 1964. You will probably have to share the first 3-4 digits of your serial number for us to have an idea of the right date range.

 

found something that might be of your interest https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/...-evaluations-a-certain-peice-of-paper.503304/