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Non-transitional 145.022-68 ST
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Davidt
·The obvious answer is either the dial or caseback have been swapped
what’s the serial no?
what’s the serial no?
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Lowghost
·I did find one other example like this: Pre-Owned Omega Speedmaster Professional 145.022-68St
https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/117563441
https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/117563441
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Spacefruit
··Prolific Speedmaster HoarderIt is improbable that this is original, as David points out.
the Important thing to keep in mind is that this watch is worth less than an original -69.
And even less valuable than a -68
….and don’t kid yourself about finding an original AML 861 dial. I think I have only ever seen one for sale
the Important thing to keep in mind is that this watch is worth less than an original -69.
And even less valuable than a -68
….and don’t kid yourself about finding an original AML 861 dial. I think I have only ever seen one for sale
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Dan S
·Based on the listing photos, the case-back is very badly over polished as well. I can't even see the engraving. And obviously the bezel is pretty rough. I hope you didn't pay much for it.
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hansaboy
·I did find one other example like this: Pre-Owned Omega Speedmaster Professional 145.022-68St
https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/117563441
Hi there, the one you found (but not bought) on Liveauctioneer had a hefty price (even if it was a year ago...), don't you think?
And they wrote serial nr 42 mil - that can't be correct?
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hansaboy
·@Lowghost
Have you checked this nice website (before you started buying..)?
https://speedmaster101.com/145-022_update/
I have used all of his reviews and articles as bed-time reading for my kids!!😉
Look also on youtube:
Good Luck!
Have you checked this nice website (before you started buying..)?
https://speedmaster101.com/145-022_update/
I have used all of his reviews and articles as bed-time reading for my kids!!😉
Look also on youtube:
Good Luck!
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Lowghost
·Thanks everyone for your feedback. The serial on this one is 27,325,662. I spoke to the shop and they are very understanding. Their master watchmaker seems quite certain the dial is original based on a number of factors, including the patina, the position and impression of the feet, etc. I am, however, still not certain. I have found a couple other examples of non transition dials in this reference, but they are a little weird. I’m posting another example from 1st dibs as a photo in this post. I also consulted a Speedmaster collector who believes as many here do it should be a transition dial.
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140dave
·It is an original dial. It is not the original dial for this watch.
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Dan S
·Thanks everyone for your feedback. The serial on this one is 27,325,662. I spoke to the shop and they are very understanding. Their master watchmaker seems quite certain the dial is original based on a number of factors, including the patina, the position and impression of the feet, etc. I am, however, still not certain. I have found a couple other examples of non transition dials in this reference, but they are a little weird. I’m posting another example from 1st dibs as a photo in this post. I also consulted a Speedmaster collector who believes as many here do it should be a transition dial. The shop would swap the Speedmaster for this 1966 Navitimer if I’d like to, and I’m considering that option: https://fathertimeantiques.com/item.php?item_id=1626&start=0&criteria=^0^0^0^4
This is total gibberish. Of course it's an original dial for a cal 861 reference 145-022-69 or -71, so the feet are in the right position and the age is as expected. It doesn't matter if you find a half dozen examples with swapped dials or replaced case-backs, it will never be correct. Don't exchange anything, just get your money back for the frankenwatch they sold you.
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Davidt
·Agree. You can find all sorts of weird combinations if you look hard enough. With the caseback and serial im this is simply a -68 where someone has swapped out a -69 dial.
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pdxleaf
··"I cut it TWICE and it's still short!"You'd also be over-paying about 2k for that Breitling.
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joe band
·….and don’t kid yourself about finding an original AML 861 dial. I think I have only ever seen one for sale
and it wasn't cheap
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