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  1. mahamithra May 22, 2016

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    Does anyone have any information about the very very few Speedmaster's that were produced without the NASA insignia on the case back. I am told there was a short period where the agreement with NASA had expired and some Speedy's do not have the NASA insignia on the case back. This is in the 32 million range.
    Any information would be appreciated???
     
  2. littlesheep81 May 22, 2016

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  3. abrod520 May 22, 2016

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    I think you're asking about the 145.022-71 without the inscription, rather than a pre-moon? There was no agreement with NASA - as they were transitioning to the modern "Flight-qualified for all manned space missions - the first watch worn on the moon" inscription around the caseback, a few left the factory without an inscription. It's generally considered to be a mistake, an anomaly - kind of like the 220 bezel.

    @gemini4 has one and can show it off.
     
  4. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia May 22, 2016

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    Here is the 145.022-71 No Inscription Caseback
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  5. Jpr Sep 4, 2017

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    My no nasa has another special feature unusual for the no nasa : a DON bezel
     
  6. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Sep 4, 2017

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    Your NoNasa is NoCorrect. Should have a DNN.
     
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  7. Jpr Sep 4, 2017

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    Sue me lol. It was produced in 1970 and delivered to South Africa. Plenty of DONs on 1970 speedos even when the marking inside says 145.022 ST71
     
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  8. kov Trüffelschwein. Sep 4, 2017

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    Or the other way around - your premoon Speedy has a wrong caseback :rolleyes:

    That being said, the "special unusual feature" made me LMAO :p
     
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  9. Dash1 Sep 4, 2017

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    If your extract says it was produced in 1970 then that would be before the case back was made, I believe. The dash date on the end of the case ref denoted the year the case was made. Given the production date and don bezel yours might have started life as a -69? What's the movement serial number?
     
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  10. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Sep 4, 2017

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    wait what?
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  11. DLT222 Double D @ ΩF Staff Member Sep 4, 2017

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    This is Don no?

    Everyone called him Don Pablo

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  12. Jpr Sep 4, 2017

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    LOL at Pablo ! Ok have fun guys, time for dinner here...
     
  13. thatonewatchdude Sep 4, 2017

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    Wait speedos..... hmm interesting way to bring back a dead thread jpr
     
  14. kov Trüffelschwein. Sep 5, 2017

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    Back to the facts, for me, chronologically we have :

    -69's with DON till the fall 1970
    -69's with a transitional misprint DNN 220 bezel till jan-feb 1971
    -69's with DNN till late 1971 (are there any 1972 -69s known?) including straight writing but no No NASA casebacks
    -71's with No NASA casebacks came then till the engraved 'Flight qualified blah blah' caseback comes out and remains unchanged till nowadays

    Did I miss something? If not, @Jpr maybe you will agree with my statement above, your Speedy to have a wrong caseback. At least now it is a bit more factual ;)
     
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  15. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Sep 5, 2017

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    Actually, the NoNasa 71s movement numbers are in the middle of the range of production of the 145.022-71. I have no idea why. Perhaps, for a short time, Omega ran out of the new medallion casebacks.
     
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  16. kov Trüffelschwein. Sep 5, 2017

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    Yeah but for sure nothing that could have been fitted by Omega before the fall 1970 on a Premoon Speedy :)

    It's a bit like the 220 bezel - it's much harder to find a period correct watch to put that bezel on than to find a 220 bezel itself. :whistling:

    And now, as this thread lacks pictures :

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  17. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Sep 5, 2017

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    Right. MWO indicated that the 145.022-71 started production in 1971. The NoNasa caseback probably weren't produced before 1972.
     
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  18. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Sep 5, 2017

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    IMG_6048.JPG Here are a couple of 220s, all correct I think. One has a Meister dial.
     
  19. Jpr Sep 5, 2017

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  20. Jpr Sep 5, 2017

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    To me, as my watch is from the transition period, I have no reasonable reason to doubt the caseback was not on this watch. As you well know ST 71 does not certify the actual year of production, it indicates the year of model type. As for the DON, forums agree that during ths transition years, it is perfectly possible that a DON bezel was placed on a 1970 watch. This happened with dials too. Now, is it possible that the original owner had a DON bezel placed on the watch in the 1980s or 1990s ? Of course ! Do I care ? Nope, not at all. Do I care that people say my watch is incorrect ? Absolutely not, be my guest.
     
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