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Nice 37mm Gold Compur on chrono24

  1. Florent Jan 8, 2018

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  2. rolokr Jan 8, 2018

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    Looks original to me, fonts look good !
     
  3. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Jan 8, 2018

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    Looks great! A princely sum for a rare watch but appropriate.
     
  4. Flatfoot Jan 8, 2018

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    That is a lovely watch, and looks like the real deal to me. The number fonts and the logo on the dial are very appealing.

    Would the "Swiss Made" on the dial indicate it was destined for a UK/US/English speaking market from the factory?
     
  5. Flatfoot Jan 8, 2018

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    I dug further into the photos of this watch on the site, and its a gem.

    The seller has a really well prepared inventory of all watches, I might add.
     
  6. Fost Jan 8, 2018

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    Simon is a member of this forum... If you want more information.
    @vintagecaliber
     
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  7. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Jan 8, 2018

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    If it were appropriate, you'd have bought it!
     
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  8. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Jan 8, 2018

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    I’m in a 12 step program now. ::facepalm1::
     
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  9. bgrisso Jan 8, 2018

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    LOL, busted. Although I think it might be more that Larry is overstocked on GOLD chronos....
     
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  10. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Jan 8, 2018

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    but still hangin' around the liquor store, I see....
     
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  11. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Jan 8, 2018

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    Seriously, does anyone have an example of a cal 287 in one of the four digit references? How about a dial with the gear wheel escutcheon in one of the four digit references?
     
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  12. billving Jan 8, 2018

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    There add does say also that it has been professionally repolished showing little to no traces of wear. It does look nice but I didn't try to compare it to others of the ref. Lou, are you thinking the dial or movement don't belong with the case?
     
  13. ELV web Jan 8, 2018

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    I have not seen 287 so early. But the wheel on the dial looks possible timing wise (1937), although “Swiss made” sign on dial is odd given the case is HJ and was locally swiss (not fabrique en France etc.)
     
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  14. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Jan 8, 2018

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    'zackly. Case earlier than movement dial-assembly. This number of case and movement-dial mismatches at the recent Bernardini sale jumped out at me. Lot of switching going on in Universal, I think.
     
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  15. Dre Jan 8, 2018

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    “Swiss Made” seem to have been added to what used to be a nice and original dial.
     
  16. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Jan 8, 2018

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    Why would anyone do that? Anyway...more reasons to be wary ....Too bad on the mismatched everything...I feel sorry for this watch.
     
  17. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Jan 8, 2018

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    I'm not ready to write this one off. In fact, I hope someone can prove me wrong.
     
  18. Diabolik Jan 9, 2018

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    Screams put together to me. I would expect a 386 there not a 287.

    Dial and font look great but I am pretty certain it is a dial that was printed for another house which was pretty common in those days.

    I have never seen an early compur with "swiss made" and the logo at noon. The compur script is a little dodgy (the U looks like the money bucket, pour it in lads and kiss it goodbye).

    In my view, what we have is probably a dial printed for another which would not have had a logo and was later restamped with UG logo and script ... a franken ? no as it is likely to have been a cliche that was used by UG. However, i would have preferred it in its original state ...
     
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  19. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Jan 9, 2018

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    Interesting. If I read this correctly ...a dial in production by a subcontractor that is stamped for UG at some point and a Cal 287 that should not be in a case with this serial number? Sounds like a supplement to Sala for the early years needs to be written.
     
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  20. Dre Jan 9, 2018

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    The case is definitely an earlier one than the movement. But the dial itself, apart from the "Swiss Made" writing, is original IMO. The font is actually consistent from some UG from the same period, not the best quality from UG at the time but look alright to me. Regarding the square "u" on the word "Compur", is also correct. Below is my old Compur with Jeanneret case, ref 5166, with the same square "u".

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    My opinion on the "Swiss Made" is that whoever put that on the dial, is not 100% sure on the originality of the dial. Maybe because they are unsure of the whole fonts of the dial, as well as the lack of Swiss on the bottom, and then they decided to add the "Swiss Made" in order to convince people that the dial is 100% original.

    I have owned at least 4 UG Compur, and not one has Swiss on the bottom. UG is normally SWISS on the bottom as well, SWISS MADE for most Girard-Peregaux that are made by UG. Also, the Swiss" or "Swiss Made" always outside the scale on 6 o'clock.
     
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