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  1. Mstorms2672 May 30, 2015

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    I own my grandfather's (RIP) 1957 (?) Omega Seamaster Automatic. The original movement was replaced long ago and I would like to find out what the original movement was and restore it. The movement that's in there now is a 17 jewel, caliber 550, #22183017. However, the case number is 2846-6-SC and the back is engraved with my grandfather's name and dated 1958.

    I have everything that the watch came with. The manuals and certificate in the pic, white cloth in the box, red leather box, red cardboard box, sticker from the back of the bezel, and the $155 foil price tag.

    If anyone can help me with more info is greatly appreciated!
     
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  2. Joe K. Curious about this text thingy below his avatar May 30, 2015

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    The Movement model is likely to be correct, although the serial number suggests it is a bit from the early 1960's. Your dial is also refinished, so you will need to find a correct original.
     
  3. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado May 30, 2015

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    Ref 2846 would have originally been fitted with a caliber 500 or possibly a 501, with a serial number around 16 million (ca 1958).
     
  4. Joe K. Curious about this text thingy below his avatar May 30, 2015

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    oops.... yes, missed that the OPs watch is a 550.

     
  5. Mstorms2672 May 30, 2015

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    I apologize. I did know the replacement movent was 1960's. I also know thay the second hand is missimg.

    As far as the dial is concerned, what are the issues? I had the dial refinished to the exact colors and markings as it was when I received it just repainted.
     
  6. Mstorms2672 May 30, 2015

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    Would you suggest a 500 or 501 or does it matter for correctness?
     
  7. Buck2466 May 30, 2015

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    If it has no collector value and only sentimental value to you, then I'm sure you can live with the re-finished dial. To a collector, this is a big issue. The O in Omega is not straight in line with the rest of the letters for one thing.
     
  8. Mstorms2672 May 30, 2015

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    It is sentimental and it will never leave my family but I want it correct as well. Would you be able to point me in the right direction to get it redone? I live in South Jersey but I'm open to suggestions. What are the other issues? I would really like a list if you would be so kind.
     
  9. tdn-dk May 31, 2015

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    I have two ref. 2846, a 2846-11 SC from 1958 with cal. 501 and a 2846-2 SC from 1956 with a cal. 501
     
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  10. Hijak May 31, 2015

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    Pictures of these might be helpful to OP!:thumbsup:
     
  11. tdn-dk May 31, 2015

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    2846-11 SC:

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    2846-2 SC:

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  12. Mstorms2672 May 31, 2015

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    Thank you very much for the reference! I saw a 501 on eBay for $175 I believe.
     
  13. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member May 31, 2015

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    Wouldn't be a good one for $175, or that may have been the current bid only
     
  14. Mstorms2672 Jun 2, 2015

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    Buck,
    Can you or anyone on this forum help me with getting my watch right??
     
  15. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Jun 2, 2015

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    Unfortunately, I don't know anyone who would have an original dial for this watch. Not sure if a cal. 550 would fit in a case designed for a cal. 501, but it's certainly possible.

    Best bet would be to buy a working cal. 501 movement (20 jewel version) on eBay. Does the paperwork show the original serial number of the movement? If it was purchased in 1957, the serial number will be in the 14 to 15 million range. Should be able to find something close to that. If you are lucky, the replacement movement might come with an original dial.

    Other than that, it's going to be very difficult to get a decent restoration of a watch that have obviously been played around with a lot over the last 55 years.

    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
    gatorcpa
     
  16. Mstorms2672 Jun 2, 2015

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    Hi Gatorcpa,
    Thank you for replying. It has a cal. 550 in it now. The only numbers I can find are the ones on the Omega guarantee certificate in the pic I posted. I don't know if there's any way to trace back to get info or not.

    In the booklet titled "Your Omega Automatic" says that its a 17 jewel. Being new to vintage watches, I'm not sure if a 17 jewel cal. 501 is much different than a 19 jewel or 20 jewel cal. 501.

    Right now ebay is my go to site. I'm keeping an eye on what's there and I'm going to go from there.

    As far as the dial is concerned, I need to find a reputable and accurate place to do the restoration. I found an image or two that I believe are close to the original dial.

    Thank you very much!
    Mike
     
  17. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Jun 2, 2015

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    The value of the watch is sentimental - I would keep it as is since any restoration done at this point will take it further away from the watch your grandfather owned.
     
  18. Mstorms2672 Jun 2, 2015

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    That is quite true. I at least need a few things done to get it in working/wearable condition. One of the three legs holding the dial is broken off and the sweep second hand needs to be put in. I'm looking for someone I can trust to do the work correctly.
     
  19. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Jun 2, 2015

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    @Archer is as good as you're going to get for what you need but I hope you keep the movement and dial as is - this is the watch your grandfather wore on his wrist.
     
  20. Giff2577 Quick with the tools! Jun 2, 2015

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    I have some 500/501 dials but they are in abysmal condition.
    I just tried both and a 550 will fit in a 2846 case but a 500/501 dial will not fit a 550 movement so is the refinished dial even original? I would do as the other members suggest and hunt down a nice 501 dial and movement on the internet. That is great that you are honoring your grandfather by restoring his watch!
     
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