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ChrisN
·If he's a senior member he will spot this thread in a second.
To @GATSBY1 - you know that it's clear you're online don't you? You've gone very quiet...
Chris
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Newbie taken advantage by veteran member!!
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To @GATSBY1 - you know that it's clear you're online don't you? You've gone very quiet...
Chris
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tyrantlizardrex
·I can't believe he didn't call out the member that lowballed him
It's been said here many times... there are three sides to every story: yours, theirs, and the truth.
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dougiedude
··Carpe horologium!Perhaps he's in conversation with the 'veteran' member... or maybe the OP has disappeared forever!
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CajunTiger
·There is no way to determine who did what. Its one mans word vs another. We clearly don't have the complete story or the facts and shouldn't be weighing in without this. Truth is we will never know the full story.
We know this much...the seller accepted an offer outside the rules of the forum. But since a gun wasnt put to his head...shame on him for having sellers remorse after he accepted an offer. That being said...if the buyer has any knowledge whatsoever of Heuer, then shame on him for taking advantage of the situation. Again, the only people here who have the facts are the buyer and seller. We cant really accuse anyone of anything..as we dont know what really happened. So we should all reserve judgement as it could be a simple case of misinformation.
I would suggest the buyer and seller work together to resolve this...
I can weigh in only with this knowledge:
Based on photos alone...if you gutted the watch and sold the parts only, you could easily get $3500 minimum. This is a watch that is highly desirable and is selling on other forums for $7000 moments after listing. Take that with a grain of salt as we aren't able to examine the watch...but if you look at the photos and consider the movement only...I would suggest that it alone would sell for $2,000. Try to find one.
The dial could sell for minimum $500...more likely $750 or more. The hands easily $500 without hesitation, but more than likely over $1500...hell the 3 small chrono hands could fetch $500 alone. Then you have a case that should sell for minimum of $500, but realistically upwards of $1500 or more.
Do the math.
We know this much...the seller accepted an offer outside the rules of the forum. But since a gun wasnt put to his head...shame on him for having sellers remorse after he accepted an offer. That being said...if the buyer has any knowledge whatsoever of Heuer, then shame on him for taking advantage of the situation. Again, the only people here who have the facts are the buyer and seller. We cant really accuse anyone of anything..as we dont know what really happened. So we should all reserve judgement as it could be a simple case of misinformation.
I would suggest the buyer and seller work together to resolve this...
I can weigh in only with this knowledge:
Based on photos alone...if you gutted the watch and sold the parts only, you could easily get $3500 minimum. This is a watch that is highly desirable and is selling on other forums for $7000 moments after listing. Take that with a grain of salt as we aren't able to examine the watch...but if you look at the photos and consider the movement only...I would suggest that it alone would sell for $2,000. Try to find one.
The dial could sell for minimum $500...more likely $750 or more. The hands easily $500 without hesitation, but more than likely over $1500...hell the 3 small chrono hands could fetch $500 alone. Then you have a case that should sell for minimum of $500, but realistically upwards of $1500 or more.
Do the math.
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dougiedude
··Carpe horologium!There is no way to determine who did what. Its one mans word vs another. We clearly don't have the complete story or the facts and shouldn't be weighing in without this. Truth is we will never know the full story.
We know this much...the seller accepted an offer outside the rules of the forum. But since a gun wasnt put to his head...shame on him for having sellers remorse after he accepted an offer. That being said...if the buyer has any knowledge whatsoever of Heuer, then shame on him for taking advantage of the situation. Again, the only people here who have the facts are the buyer and seller. We cant really accuse anyone of anything..as we dont know what really happened. So we should all reserve judgement as it could be a simple case of misinformation.
I would suggest the buyer and seller work together to resolve this...
I can weigh in only with this knowledge:
Based on photos alone...if you gutted the watch and sold the parts only, you could easily get $3500 minimum. This is a watch that is highly desirable and is selling on other forums for $7000 moments after listing. Take that with a grain of salt as we aren't able to examine the watch...but if you look at the photos and consider the movement only...I would suggest that it alone would sell for $2,000. Try to find one.
The dial could sell for minimum $500...more likely $750 or more. The hands easily $500 without hesitation, but more than likely over $1500...hell the 3 small chrono hands could fetch $500 alone. Then you have a case that should sell for minimum of $500 and upwards of $1500 or more.
Do the math.
The OP stated that the 'veteran' member wanted to send the watch back to him for full refund; then the partial refund was mutually agreed upon, so I'm not sure any fingers should be pointed without more information, and even then, as @tyrantlizardrex said, which part of the 3 versions are we hearing?
Needless to say, I hope a satisfying resolution can be achieved for all parties...
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...The OP broke no rules. He did not offer the watch for sale, and I don't think his post was an attempt to sell it. The rule exists so that new/clueless members will not get taken advantage of with a unvetted seller. The member was within his choice to contact the OP and make an offer no harm no foul.
That being said. The second valuation is worthless as the watch has not been closely looked at.
Additionally the OP was told multiple times of the potential value of the watch.
Then the buyer offered to send it back! The OP then struck the deal to refund some of the money. Which the OP did not need to accept
How did the OP get swindled by someone that offered to send it back to them?
That being said. The second valuation is worthless as the watch has not been closely looked at.
Additionally the OP was told multiple times of the potential value of the watch.
Then the buyer offered to send it back! The OP then struck the deal to refund some of the money. Which the OP did not need to accept
How did the OP get swindled by someone that offered to send it back to them?
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dougiedude
··Carpe horologium!
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ChrisN
·I would suggest the buyer and seller work together to resolve this...
I can weigh in only with this knowledge:
Based on photos alone...if you gutted the watch and sold the parts only, you could easily get $3500 minimum. This is a watch that is highly desirable and is selling on other forums for $7000 moments after listing. Take that with a grain of salt as we aren't able to examine the watch...but if you look at the photos and consider the movement only...I would suggest that it alone would sell for $2,000. Try to find one.
The dial could sell for minimum $500...more likely $750 or more. The hands easily $500 without hesitation, but more than likely over $1500...hell the 3 small chrono hands could fetch $500 alone. Then you have a case that should sell for minimum of $500, but realistically upwards of $1500 or more.
Do the math.
Great information. You do have to wonder what the buyer found to reduce to 2k all in? I'd be interested to know (but have already said that).
Cheers, Chris
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Larry S
··Color Commentator for the Hyperbole.BINGO!
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dennisthemenace
·So, who is this member who told you not to bother other members about this?
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Davidt
·OP you had good enough replies to alert you to the fact that this watch had considerable value, but you chose to partially ignore this to chase a quick sale, without fully understanding the market value of what you had. As such, you must shoulder at least some of the responsibility.
That said, I'm struggling to believe whoever ended up buying it found enough faults to reduce it down to 2k as I agree with @CajunTiger on general values and on the pics provided I think 3.5 is still reasonably cheap. However, we haven't held the watch - perhaps the dial was glued in place and the movement a piece of junk (hard to believe as it looked pretty good on the pictures to me)?
That said, I'm struggling to believe whoever ended up buying it found enough faults to reduce it down to 2k as I agree with @CajunTiger on general values and on the pics provided I think 3.5 is still reasonably cheap. However, we haven't held the watch - perhaps the dial was glued in place and the movement a piece of junk (hard to believe as it looked pretty good on the pictures to me)?
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ICONO
·Putting aside the ethics of a 'Gentleman's Club', where one does not take financial adavantage of a 'newly arrived' ignoramus
We have ALL pitched lowball offers on EBay to unsuspecting sellers, with dodgy / poor imagery or thin descriptions… using our personal knowledge, gained here or elsewhere, to ascertain real value
I hope this fresh post is not an unsubtle attempt to blackmail / extort the 'senior member' / buyer into returning part of the original purchase price again
It seems to me there is shoddy behaviour on both sides……but I am not breaking out the pitchforks and blazing torches, on what I have heard so far
We have ALL pitched lowball offers on EBay to unsuspecting sellers, with dodgy / poor imagery or thin descriptions… using our personal knowledge, gained here or elsewhere, to ascertain real value
I hope this fresh post is not an unsubtle attempt to blackmail / extort the 'senior member' / buyer into returning part of the original purchase price again
It seems to me there is shoddy behaviour on both sides……but I am not breaking out the pitchforks and blazing torches, on what I have heard so far
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billythekid
·THE PLOT THICKENS
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micampe
·1- you managed to circumvent the 200 post rule for sales. That rule is very useful to both buyers and sellers since you probably would have gained knowledge that would help you sell better. Either way, that's one shady point against you.
What I really do not like is members, like in this case, opening threads, asking questions, informations, feedback, help, and then never bothering to participate or even answer questions asked directly to them. This is when I feel the forum is unfairly being taken advantage of. We can all see you are reading, have the courtesy of answering people who are trying to help you. Didn’t even say thank you in the previous thread.
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GATSBY1
·BINGO!
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GATSBY1
·Hey mister, I've thank everyone involved many times !!! So keep your shirt on.
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tyrantlizardrex
·So... the member involved sold on the watch that you sent him @GATSBY1 ?
Is that member watching and willing to comment?
Is that member watching and willing to comment?
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GATSBY1
·Gentlemen , let me try to clear up what has happened and also express my regret in this whole ordeal . I had researched the watch after I new what it was , $7000 but due to the missing parts had to go with what I was learning and figured it was a good advice .I sent the watch in good faith without receiving payment , he said it wasn't worth the agreement and do to the uncertainty of finding the parts 2000 was his offer and I would run into the same issues with other buyers . This is where I decided to except . Two days pass and I get a message asking if it was for sale, then asked how much I received then told the real story about it. We can all see it from different points but the bottom line is I maid mistakes and respectfuly asked for the watch back and was told he got rid of it since it had so many problems . As far as my buddy who gave it to me he has been in the loop from day one.
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Davidt
·So they've flipped it already?
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