New Uncle Seiko 1450 President

SkunkPrince

Kicked you out twice, can you blame us? 😁

rcs914

Your comment prompted me to go look up the War of 1812 as I realized I had very little remembrance of what it was about. I remembered the Battle of New Orleans took place after the treaty was signed, but that was about it. I found this interesting though when I was looking it up:

"A curious thing about the historiography of this war is that all sides claim to have won it, and to an extent, this is true, as every belligerent essentially got what they most wanted. The British were able to vanquish Napoleon (twice, as it turned out) and quickly forgot about the War of 1812; it is viewed as a minor theatre of the Napoleonic Wars in the UK and overshadowed by key victories at the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805 and Waterloo in 1815 which led to the Pax Britannica. In the United States and Upper Canada, nationalistic mythology around the war took hold following its conclusion, however. The Canadians emphasize their ability to remain separate from the United States, with the failure of the invasion of British Canada advancing the evolving concept of Canadian identity and of Canada as a distinct region that would continue to evolve into a nation.[25] And the Americans were able to finally end the impressment of their citizens and enforce their sovereignty. Both the restoration of honour and the "Second War of Independence" are important themes in American historiography and are considered significant results by historians.[26][27][28]

Indigenous nations are generally understood to be the primary losers in the war."

DanT

My post was a pretty simple query - whether the US Speedy bracelets could be ordered from the UK. On the US website it says they can be shipped worldwide, but @uncleseiko post last year suggested only within the U.S.
Only asking as I'd be interested in buying one - customs etc not an issue as they are fairly priced anyway. I'm sure other non U.S. members would be interested as they are a great product judging by the reviews. Not interested in the why's or why nots!

Archer

I have highlighted the relevant passage above, and will add this for additional context:

“The acquisition of Canada this year, as far as the neighborhood of Quebec, will be a mere matter of marching; & will give us experience for the attack of Halifax the next, & the final expulsion of England from the American continent.” Thomas Jefferson to William Duane, 4 August 1812

It's not unusual to for a politician to revise their goals to reflect what was actually accomplished, rather than what what promised, but this idea that the US expelled Britain/Canada from the US seems to be a particularly egregious example...just sayin'...😀

And yes, the indigenous people's did suffer the most, after siding with the British/Canadians. BTW, a lot of those Canadians were loyalists that left the US. Pierre Burton has written some wonderful books on this war - I highly recommend them. I found the tales of the many naval battles on the Great Lakes to be particularly interesting.

Walrus

Not trying to stir anything up here. I support Canada’s independence and have no desire to see it as anything but it’s own. I’ve visited Canada 6 or 7 times always enjoyed myself. In 1775 we came close to taking parts of Canada. Benedict Arnolds March on Canada was quite amazing, he ended up having to eat his dog due to starvation. Just mentioning it for historical purposes I was a revolutionary war buff for a while. The Polk administration also shook Canada up a bit. It’s all good though, it was a long time ago, I had no part in it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Quebec_(1775)

Archer

Different war mate. But thank you for supporting our independence...😁

Archer

Different war mate. But thank you for supporting our independence...😁

DanT

I have reasons for keeping the non-Seiko stuff in the US at this time that I don't care to share with the general public. I ship worldwide and understand there are delays and additional fees.

Yes, he did state he ships worldwide. He also stated in the same answer "I have reasons for keeping the non-Seiko stuff in the US at this time" (see above.) So it's rather confusing. I'm not making a big deal.

Walrus

Here is 1830
https://www.ushistory.org/us/29b.asp

Archer

If you are going to list all US wars, you should really start a new thread mate...