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New Omega Tresor Manual Wind 18K Cal 8511 Basel 2014

  1. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Mar 26, 2014

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    This one has to have been designed with the vintage fans in mind, 18K Yellow, White and Sedna Rose Gold and powered by the new Calibre 8511 manual wind Co-Axial movement the 2014 Tresor has an old school white painted waffle dial, classic case style and vintage crown on a simple leather strap. This is the first of the Calibre 8500 family of watches to be made in a manual wind variant, and it is also a 15,000 Gauss anti-magnetic movement, with a displayback. The date at six is a nice touch too :)

    Video of the Tresor from Omega:



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  2. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Mar 26, 2014

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    I wish they didn't cover up the movement like that - they are taking a Glashutte approach. Love that it's manual wind though. Don't like the dial - I would have said "poorly done redial - inaccurate fonts that are printed too darkly!"
     
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  3. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Mar 26, 2014

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    Can't help but think this is only the start for manual wind Calibre 8500/9300 family watches, some 9300 based manual wind chronographs could be very interesting in coming years.
     
  4. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Mar 26, 2014

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    Very nice but why no applied logo ::confused2::
     
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  5. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Mar 26, 2014

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    My plan for this manual wind movement would have been a scientific dial dress version and a sport version based on the RAF'53/Railmaster.
    And we have some of the top vintage omega enthusiasts on this forum, why would omega not utilize us as a resource for their vintage themed releases? The more I look at this the more I see the dial as a huge miss - lots and lots of beautiful vintage chronometre dials to choose from - they should have asked for pictures of the watches owned by mac_omega to use as reference!
     
  6. blackwatch wants tickets to the HyperBole. Mar 26, 2014

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    +1 Even I thought that and I don't know anything
     
  7. cristos71 Mar 26, 2014

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    Agreed, the Omega sign also looks too small compared to the word Omega, I would have preferred an applied logo and thinner font
     
  8. Time Exposure coordinates his cast with his car's paint job Mar 26, 2014

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    Because then it wouldn't be an "in house" product.
    So we are left with what looks more like an outhouse product. Too bad...
     
  9. Joe K. Curious about this text thingy below his avatar Mar 26, 2014

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    Because we are not the intended market.
    Omega probably ran design ideas through focus groups that "reflect" the customer profile they are trying to market these to.

    Same reason Burger King chooses to put the triple whopper with bacon and cheese on the menu. It not geared towards the health-conscious customer, but rather towards the typical BK customer who accounts for the majority of sales (as a side note, the strategy does not seem to be working out well for BK over the past few years).


     
  10. mac_omega Mar 26, 2014

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    Thank you Mike - toooo much of honor!

    Actually they do not even bother to answer you when you approach them...
    I had some communication about the vintage data base and I offered them my help to correct wrong data (information) and help them build up a better picture data base as some of the pictures they use are wrong or of bad quality - they never responded to my offer...

    well, it is not uncommon that the so called experts do not ask the persons who do the "field work" out there - I have experienced the same in the field of publications about local art - they just ignore the "knowing" people because they are afraid that they must share their "success" with others...

    Another example from the watch world:

    The dial restorer Causemann receives detailed information, pictures and accurate description every time I send in a dial for restoration - it is in vain - most of the time he just "produces" what he thinks might be right ::facepalm2:: He just ignores what I had "destilled" of knowledge about the 30 T2 chronometer dials over the last 15 years - I do not recommend him any more
     
  11. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Mar 26, 2014

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    That is just exactly on the button for this - a reach for vintage elegance, fallen well short. Doesn't make me want to replace any of the "old stuff" in the watch box.
     
  12. John R Smith Mar 26, 2014

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    Lou is spot on - the old ones are still much, much nicer!
     
  13. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Mar 26, 2014

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    Message to Omega:
    These are how you modernize a classic vintage look:

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  14. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Mar 26, 2014

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    Yes, the old ones look much nicer :D

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    Trésor ref 2687
     
  15. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Mar 26, 2014

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    Agreed Hoi. This is a 37.5mm tresor.

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  16. seamonster Respectable Member Mar 26, 2014

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    Respectable Member Joe K

    Indeed we are the minority, close to the apex of the pyramid. And, who cares?

    Probably, Swatch (no more the Omega of the good old days that we know and love) are more interested to satisfy the interest of those sitting at the bottom of the pyramid. After all, that's where the money is.

    Thank you
     
  17. Trev The Architect Staff Member Mar 26, 2014

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    Really? The type and logo is pretty consistent, it lines up almost perfectly with any modern implementation of their logo as used on dials, the Omega website, and pretty much everywhere else.
    Screen Shot 2014-03-27 at 9.37.20 AM.png

    Hour Vision on left, standard modern Omega logo (from website) on the right.

    I think the new dial design is nice and clean, very balanced. If they thought an applied logo would've looked better, they would've done it.


    If you want to see inaccurate and inconsistent, look no further than the same vintage Tresor's linked in this thread:
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    Varying font weights and letter-spacing, varied logo-vs-type proportions and spacing, entirely different fonts from year to year, etc. Sometimes the logo is way too close to the type for an applied piece.

    Ok, this time you guys really do sound like a group of grumpy old men :)

    Come on Seamonster, have you even looked at the new Seamaster 300?
     
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  18. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Mar 26, 2014

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    The main disappointment for me is that releasing their first manual wind chronometer movement in 50 years and they pick this dial design? There are dozens of prettier dial designs that could have been modernized.
     
  19. Trev The Architect Staff Member Mar 26, 2014

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    I have a suspicion that this one could end up looking quite nice in person.
     
  20. seamonster Respectable Member Mar 26, 2014

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    Respectable Member Trev

    I have only seen its picture, posted by respectable member Robert-Jan.

    http://omegaforums.net/threads/omeg...the-return-of-the-seamaster-300-ck2913.11493/

    While it is nice to look at, missing are the tritium hour-markers and hands, replaced by super luminova. Will the super luminova age as well as tritium? We have yet to see. If it does, I will not be around to see unfortunately.

    Thank you.