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New Old Stock from 1960s Speedmaster

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Hey Folks,

My father lest me quite a few watches when he past about 10 years ago. This is a 1965 Ed-White Speedmaster. I believe all original except for the hands. He had it serviced in 2007 as you can see from the certificate. More interesting is that he was able to purchase what I believe is new old stock for the crystal and bezel etc. I probably put this on maybe once every 2 years and I have other watches from him do I am thinking about putting this as part of a trade towards a rose gold 4500V as I own many other Omegas. Any idea of the value of that piece and then the whole set? Thanks.

- Johnny

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Dan S
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Welcome to the forum, nice watch to have to remember your father, and much more interesting than the parts, which are just service parts.

The document is historical information about the watch, but does not indicate that a service was performed in 2007. However, based on the luminova hands, he likely did have it serviced. In your place, I would look hard for the original hands, they were often returned to the owner.

You can check the price chart at speedmaster101.com, I would put the condition at FAIR. The bracelet looks to be non-Omega, so it has little value. The parts are worth something, but you'd need to sell them separately.
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Welcome to the forum, nice watch. Much more interesting than the parts, which are just service parts.
So nothing special about them?
 
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The spare crystal will fit your watch but if you look closely at the spare case you’ll see it’s actually for a different model. The bezel would fit too but it’s a later type worth a lot less than the one on the watch. The parts are not really NOS as such, just later 2002 service parts for a different watch, in this case a 145.012. They do have value but should be considered and sold separate to the watch.

Looking at the date on the extract, I wonder is it in fact a 105.003-64, though It could be an early -65 iteration at a push. It’s hard to tell from the pic as the lugs aren’t clearly shown. The exact model is stamped inside the caseback.

Value of the watch? Check out the Speedmaster101 price guide for the head. Yours has a nice dial so may be considered around or slightly above the Good price but you’ll need to subtract something for the modern hands maybe $500-750, since finding the original tritium hands isn’t cheap. The end links and perhaps bracelet add extra value above the website numbers.
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So nothing special about them?
Nope, just parts that Omega sells to people who repair watches. The real value in old watches is from collectibility, which comes from originality, condition, and desirability.
 
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The case and bezel are just modern service parts. Certainly not NOS 60’s parts I’m afraid.
 
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The spare crystal will fit your watch but if you look closely at the case you’ll see it’s actually for a different model. The bezel would fit but it’s a later type worth a lot less than the one on the watch. The parts are not really NOS as such, just later 2002 service parts for a different watch, in this case a 145.012.
Got it. Service parts for another vintage omega but the parts were manufactured later. Probably only a few hundred bucks for that part then. Any idea of the value of the watch itself as is EDIT - nevermind - saw the post above! Chrono24 is all over the map from 10k to a heck of a lot more. Just trying to figure out fair value in a package to get the 4500V and an omega 310.60.42.50.99.001 (Apollo 11 50th anniversary.)
 
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Probably $4-5k for the watch as is as condition isn’t the best. The bracelet is not original but the Endlinks appear to be No.6’s which are also worth several hundred
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Got it. Service parts for another vintage omega but the parts were manufactured later. Probably only a few hundred bucks for that part then. Any idea of the value of the watch itself as is EDIT - nevermind - saw the post above! Chrono24 is all over the map from 10k to a heck of a lot more. Just trying to figure out fair value in a package to get the 4500V and an omega 310.60.42.50.99.001 (Apollo 11 50th anniversary.)

I think you need to manage your expectations, for the watch at least. I don’t see $10k there since I suspect the bracelet isn’t a 60s original item, though the end links probably are and those are valuable. The 145.012 service case might be worth 4 figures though so that will help I guess. C24 asking prices don’t really reflect what a watch will fetch. Look instead at eBay sold figures or the website I mentioned above.
 
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The spare crystal will fit your watch but if you look closely at the case you’ll see it’s actually for a different model. The bezel would fit too but it’s a later type worth a lot less than the one on the watch. The parts are not really NOS as such, just later 2002 service parts for a different watch, in this case a 145.012. They do have value but should be considered and sold separate to the watch.

Looking at the date on the extract, I wonder is it in fact a 105.003-64, though It could be an early -65 iteration at a push. It’s hard to tell from the pic as the lugs aren’t clearly shown. The exact model is stamped inside the caseback.

Value of the watch? Check out the Speedmaster101 price guide for the head. Yours has a nice dial so may be considered around or slightly above the Good price but you’ll need to subtract something for the modern hands maybe $500, since finding the original tritium hands isn’t cheap. The end links and perhaps bracelet add extra value above the website numbers.
padders padders
The spare crystal will fit your watch but if you look closely at the case you’ll see it’s actually for a different model. The bezel would fit too but it’s a later type worth a lot less than the one on the watch. The parts are not really NOS as such, just later 2002 service parts for a different watch, in this case a 145.012. They do have value but should be considered and sold separate to the watch.

Looking at the date on the extract, I wonder is it in fact a 105.003-64, though It could be an early -65 iteration at a push. It’s hard to tell from the pic as the lugs aren’t clearly shown. The exact model is stamped inside the caseback.

Value of the watch? Check out the Speedmaster101 price guide for the head. Yours has a nice dial so may be considered around or slightly above the Good price but you’ll need to subtract something for the modern hands maybe $500-750, since finding the original tritium hands isn’t cheap. The end links and perhaps bracelet add extra value above the website numbers.
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I think you need to manage your expectations, for the watch at least. I don’t see $10k there since I suspect the bracelet isn’t a 60s original item, though the end links probably are and those are valuable. The 145.012 service case might be worth 4 figures though so that will help I guess. C24 asking prices don’t really reflect what a watch will fetch. Look instead at eBay sold figures or the website I mentioned above.
Got it. If under 10k - i'd rather keep it for sentimental value. I'll look into selling the service part on its own. Thanks for you help.
 
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I think you need to manage your expectations, for the watch at least. I don’t see $10k there since I suspect the bracelet isn’t a 60s original item, though the end links probably are and those are valuable. The 145.012 service case might be worth 4 figures though so that will help I guess. C24 asking prices don’t really reflect what a watch will fetch. Look instead at eBay sold figures or the website I mentioned above.
Btw - the bracelets says
32 in a circle, then stainess steel with 1202 under it and then omega with the logo in a traingle above it. Not sure if that is interesting or not. Hard to take a picture. Thanks!
 
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padders padders
I think you need to manage your expectations, for the watch at least. I don’t see $10k there since I suspect the bracelet isn’t a 60s original item, though the end links probably are and those are valuable. The 145.012 service case might be worth 4 figures though so that will help I guess. C24 asking prices don’t really reflect what a watch will fetch. Look instead at eBay sold figures or the website I mentioned above.
I think that above the $1k mark is a good estimate for the service case.
 
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