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Need some help identifying these NOS 2998 hands. Sold on EBay for $723

  1. gemini4

    gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed Apr 21, 2015

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    http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=381226763655

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    What era are these 2998 hands from?

    I was interested and asked the seller who said that he didn't know the exact date of manufactor but that the lume was definitely luminova. That would make these post 1995, replacement or replica hands, I believe. Yet they sold for big bucks as if they were vintage

    I'm confused.
     
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  2. Spacefruit

    Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Apr 21, 2015

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    The OP hands have square ends at each end of both lume hands, so these are new hands at at a vastly inflated price.

    I cannot see the length in the Ebay hands, but they may be short too. Or not - Omega does I think supply correct length ones - but still they have the new shape lume.

    The second pair above are Seamaster replacements, but similar to the Omega supplied ones of the correct size. Note the square lume ends.

    The seller of the ebay hands is an Omega parts dealer, that will no longer get parts in future due to Omega's policy change. These parts are possibly simply parts ordered from Omega recently. They say they have some old stock, but I would hesitate to buy these thinking they were old.

    To put it another way, I did not even consider these, and I require three sets of 2998 hands.
     
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  3. Archer

    Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Apr 22, 2015

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    I agree they certainly look like the hands I can order from Omega now - whole set is about $90 or so...
     
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  4. cicindela

    cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Apr 22, 2015

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    Those are being sold by Watchco Australia.
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  5. Archer

    Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Apr 22, 2015

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    I think we know that. ;)
     
  6. Bienne2998

    Bienne2998 Apr 23, 2015

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    I bought a 2998 a couple of years ago. It was serviced by Omega (before I bought it). Omega switched the old alpha hands and put on these new ones. Well, the watch looks like new - but obviously it lost a lot of its character (and after doing research I found out how rare these hands are.... I spent some nights crying about the old hands Omega just threw away!!! Pics follow....
    Best, Thomas
     
  7. Bienne2998

    Bienne2998 Apr 23, 2015

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    Pics when watch arrived at Omega Workshop (i received the picture from the seller - a shop who sends all watches to Omega before re-selling). 2998-5 pre Omega service.jpg
     
  8. Bienne2998

    Bienne2998 Apr 23, 2015

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    Pics how watch came from Omega in the first place.... look what they have done!!! 2998-5 post Omega service.jpg
     
  9. Bienne2998

    Bienne2998 Apr 23, 2015

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    then I wrote a letter to Omega saying that I was crying all day and could not sleep anymore because my toy was not like it should be....::shy::
    and then they agreed to switch the hands to this (well at least they did the switch for free). 2998.jpg
     
  10. Bienne2998

    Bienne2998 Apr 23, 2015

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    I forgot - these hands that are mounted now are the same as have been sold lately on eBay (watchco) - as others stated - they are modern replacements (luminova) and can be ordered at Omega.
    Sad story - but I like my watch anyway - it has got a great story (with a lot of drama) - and at least the dial and the almost perfect DON are really cool. Movement and anything else are also original.
    Best, Thomas
     
  11. dsio

    dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Apr 23, 2015

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    @Archer better order a few of those $90 handsets if they're worth $723 on eBay.
     
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  12. Bienne2998

    Bienne2998 Apr 23, 2015

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    Sorry I forgot - the bezel was almost perfect BEFORE it was sent to OMEGA (as you can see on the picture) - the ding at 150 was done during the OMEGA-service...
     
  13. Archer

    Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Apr 23, 2015

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    No thanks - I like to sleep at night...
     
  14. MSNWatch

    MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Apr 23, 2015

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    Watchco essentially practices arbitrage for most of the items they sell - no problems with that as a business model but items like this one are just misrepresented.
     
  15. lenny

    lenny Apr 23, 2015

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    This reminds me of the $4400 "NOS" movement watchco sm300 a fellow forumer bought.
     
  16. gemini4

    gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed Apr 23, 2015

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    I REALLY wanted the black base 1000 bezel that was auctioned. I didn't get it :(
     
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  17. MSNWatch

    MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Apr 23, 2015

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    Yup, reminds me to hold on to this one in the parts box:

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  18. oddboy

    oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Apr 24, 2015

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  19. Davidt

    Davidt Apr 24, 2015

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    Hmm, I dont like that description. Its not incorrect as such, buts it omits to say they're actually new and implies they've been sat ona drawer since the 60's.
     
  20. VetPsychWars

    VetPsychWars Wants to be in the club! Apr 24, 2015

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    That would be me. Still keeping fabulous time. Amortize over 30 years. I'm going to put those alpha hands on my Speemaster, I think the set is less than $100 from Otto Frei.

    Tom

    (Again, if anyone has proof that the caliber 552 in my "new" Seamaster is not NOS, I'd love to hear it.)