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  1. basigal Dec 8, 2016

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    Here is the watch!

    I recently inherited my grandfathers old omega and I plan on restoring it. I have not yet opened it because I do not want to pay to get it opened before I restore it. I believe it is a 35x cal automatic but I cannot find a Seamaster with the second indicators like this. I have seen Chronometres with this pattern.

    Example 1 Example 2 Example 3

    The funny thing is that none of these have "Seamaster" on the bottom. And yes I have scrolled through all of the vintage website but there are a lot that do not have pictures.

    I did notice on this one that it used to have luminous on the hands and the hour markers.

    Please help me ID this watch :) thank you!

    Edit: Added description, changed what I thought was a constellation to chronometres
     
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  2. ulackfocus Dec 8, 2016

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    Looks like a 2846 / 2848 / 2849 series, but I forget if these were early enough to have bumper 35x calibers inside. The 2846 / 2848 mostly had the caliber 50x full rotors. There might be a reference number before this for those bumpers so hold on for a minute..........

    Might be a 2577 or 2767. Don't know for sure until the caseback is off. Lotsa Seamasters had thick lugs like that in the 1950's.
     
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  3. basigal Dec 8, 2016

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    Well I just checked it again and it definitely feels like the rotor stops and does not full rotate. Those series were ones I did investigate but I have not seen a face like this one. I cannot wait to get it opened up this weekend :)
     
  4. basigal Dec 8, 2016

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    What do you mean lugs? I am new to watch collecting
     
  5. ulackfocus Dec 8, 2016

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    Lugs are the two prongs sticking out on the top and bottom that the strap fits between.

    You know, I used to have a solid rose gold one just like that years ago. Hold that thought.....
     
  6. basigal Dec 8, 2016

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    OMEGA vintage wristwatch, Seamaster Ref. 2767 -- 1, circa 1954 ...

    Just found one on youtube but mine has luminous on it
     
  7. ulackfocus Dec 8, 2016

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    That's the case reference for sure - a 2767.

    Found the watch I used to have, but it doesn't say Seamaster on the dial either.

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  8. basigal Dec 8, 2016

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    What numbers should I look for when they open it up?
     
  9. basigal Dec 8, 2016

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    Any recommendations on what I should tell the jeweler to do? I know it needs a polishing, cleaning, and oiling but what else?
     
  10. Willem023 Dec 8, 2016

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    Depending on your own preferences, be aware that polishing a case will put the hard-core collector off big-time.
    They (as in 'I' also) like the case untouched.

    Best to go to a recommended watchmaker (so not (!) the jeweler on the corner of your street, nor Omega) and get his/her professional opinion.

    Hang around over here a bit to get an idea of how members in general proceed.

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  11. Willem023 Dec 9, 2016

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    and this is btw how an untouched case looks like for the ref 2520/77....

    :D

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    Cheers
    W
     
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  12. basigal Dec 9, 2016

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    Thanks for the advice. So should I even get the crystal polished? Or the hands and dial dusted/cleaned off?

    I really want to put luminous back on but if it ruins the piece I won't do it.
     
  13. basigal Dec 9, 2016

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  14. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Dec 9, 2016

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    That's because the OPs watch is a redial.

    It's no big issue, many dials were re-inked/painted as a normal part of a service in that era and that isn't a bad example.
     
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  15. Willem023 Dec 9, 2016

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    Might be, but one needs reference material...:p

    Again, it will depend on what you want yourself, but in general, cleaning a watch fully, will not change its character. Changing (polishing) the case, 'touching-up' the dial, replacing the hands, will.
    Nothing wrong with that per se, but people have different tastes and preferences.

    If you post some good, high res pics of the watch, you might get some advice on how to judge (and therefore decide on next steps) on dial, hands and the like.

    Enjoy the ride!!

    W

    Edit: crossed with @JimInOz 's posting
     
  16. basigal Dec 9, 2016

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    That is probably why I couldn't find a picture of this watch. So does that mean it is not a seamaster??
     
  17. basigal Dec 9, 2016

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    I will post high res pics tomorrow for you
     
  18. Willem023 Dec 9, 2016

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    :thumbsup:

    You'll get some sound advice
     
  19. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Dec 9, 2016

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    It's hard to say until you get the model number from the inside of the caseback and the serial number and caliber number from the movement.

    Then and only then can you draw the correct conclusions.
     
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  20. basigal Dec 9, 2016

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    Just found out it is a 1952 cal 354 and the watchmaker believes it is the original dial. I am getting it rehauled without touching the dial, reapplying the luminous, and putting a hand made egyptian leather band on it. :) 2 weeks and counting!