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  1. westmtn Dec 17, 2017

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    I need help with this one. Seller claims it’s refinished which would normally give me pause but it looks damn original to me (and I look at a lot of 40s dials). What am I missing here?


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  2. jshaw083 Dec 17, 2017

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    Markers on the sub-dial on don't extend all the way out to the edge
     
  3. jshaw083 Dec 17, 2017

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    I've seen that to be an indicator of a re-dial on other watches, not sure about Omegas though
     
  4. ConElPueblo Dec 17, 2017

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    I would say that the watch probably has a few issues... The hands being one of them. What reference is this? Movement serial?
     
  5. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Dec 17, 2017

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    Printing isn't sharp or even enough, I'd vote redial.
     
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  6. westmtn Dec 17, 2017

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    It’s a mid 9 million 30T2. No reference but just a serial number in the case back. The logo / font seem authentic to me. If it’s a redial they did a great job on the logo and would easily fool us on a simple dial. The “Swiss Made” does look off.

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  7. ConElPueblo Dec 17, 2017

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    I am unused to seeing a "swiss made" on Omegas of that vintage and I support the above comment re. printing.
     
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  8. jshaw083 Dec 17, 2017

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    Should be just "Swiss"?
     
  9. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Dec 17, 2017

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    More typically no Swiss or Swiss Made in the 40s.
     
  10. mac_omega Dec 17, 2017

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    I lean towards original dial - but not matching the age of the watch.

    Judging by the design this dial is at least 10-15 years younger - so the swiss made makes sense...

    swapped dial IMHO
     
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  11. ConElPueblo Dec 17, 2017

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    How do you like the stick hands? I don't recall seeing those on an Omega like this before.
     
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  12. heavenscloud Dec 17, 2017

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    Re-dial. Check out the jagged edges on the 12 o'clock marker. Agree with others that the presence of "Swiss Made" is unusual and the printing is uneven.
     
  13. François Pépin Dec 17, 2017

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    I would lean towards Erich's analysis - but hard to tell with those pics and the lack of info.

    Concerning the hands, as ConelPueblo said, they are quite unusual. But they match quite well that kind of dial! Never seen ones like these on this caliber though...
     
  14. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Dec 18, 2017

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    Original ink doesn't run like that. Redial.
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  15. Tire-comedon First Globemaster Dec 18, 2017

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    Those hands were used on Omega models at least between 1940 and 1948
    I also tend to conclude not redone. Now whether the dial is original to the Watch or not depends on the production date. Having some info on the caseback markings would help.
     
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  16. westmtn Dec 18, 2017

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    I didn’t post a link to the watch because I was debating a purchase but now I think I’ve decided against it. Here you go in case someone else is interested. I tend to agree with what everyone else has said but the quality of the logo is what’s throwing me off. Redone or not I do love the look of this one. ::popcorn::

    https://www.vintage-portfolio.com/shop/omega/important-omega-38mm-oversize-jumbo-vintage-white-30t2/
     
  17. westmtn Dec 18, 2017

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    ...I mean they added serifs to the font but neglected the edge of the 12 o’clock markers? Doesn’t sloppy original make more sense? It could have been two different processes for the logo and markers. To me that makes sense as the logo would have to be repeated extensively.

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  18. François Pépin Dec 18, 2017

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    I have seen a couple of early 30 cal. watches with these kind of hands, just after Yann said they were used in the 40's...

    I guess the whole watch could be legit then. The Swiss made is quite unusual for that period, but it is probably not a give away.

    Not sure because on the link the OP has posted, the dial may actually look too sloppy (in particular the 12 o'clock mark as noted above).

    I still tend to think the dial is not repainted though.
     
  19. ConElPueblo Dec 19, 2017

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    ::facepalm1::

    If you'd started out by saying that it was a watch sold by esteemed ex-member Ev3rclear, we probably wouldn't have had such a good discussion. Rest assured that if that man says it has been refinished, this is the case... Don't be certain of anything else, though. Unless he's changed remarkably over the last year or so, he's on the top of the list of "dealers to avoid".


    But on 30mm movement watches too? The design seems off to me.
     
  20. mac_omega Dec 19, 2017

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    yes, especially on the large ones (37,5 mm)

    here a sample, a very early one with cal. 30 (only) - though dial seems to be redone

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