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  1. arvidrattlaas May 24, 2017

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    Hi. I've been wanting to buy a Speedmaster (moonwatch) for some time now. Preferably pre 1996 and with tritium, but I don't have much knowledge about vintage Omegas. So I came here. Pardon my English - I'm Norwegian.

    I came across this 145.022 -74ST caliber 861. It's allegedly recently checked by AD, and the movement is fine. But what about the rest? The asking price is 3.240 USD and the watch comes head only.

    Is this something I should pursue or steer away from? And why? In advance..: Thanks.

    (I've asked for more pictures, and I'll post them here if and when I get them).

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    Thank you for your time.
     
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  2. kreyke May 24, 2017

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    Google speedmaster101. That website has a lot of info on pre1980s speedmaster. And a price guide as well.

    The lume on your example looks like it has been cleaned off.
     
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  3. joso May 24, 2017

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    And bezel looks like modern replacement..
     
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  4. tyrantlizardrex May 24, 2017

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  5. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. May 24, 2017

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    Seems a bit high with the wrong modern bezel replacement. Dial is correct for a -74 and is an easy to ID dial.

    Lume seems off

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    Correct bezel and dial for a 145.022-74. Notice the S in the Speedmaster logo does not drop to the level of the p. In domed dials only -74 and some -76 had that. For the bezel look at the dot near the 70 and the tachymeter font.
     
  6. sky21 May 24, 2017

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    The sweep second chrono hand is a modern luminova replacement as well if that is a concern for you.
     
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  7. arvidrattlaas May 25, 2017

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    Thanks everyone. I appreciate it. I think I'll let this one pass.
     
  8. noiseboyuk May 25, 2017

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    Unfortunately, it looks like it has too many replacement parts to be a viable purchase for the selling price.
     
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  9. rcs914 May 25, 2017

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    It would only be MAYBE worth that price if it came with a documented recent service. And that's still pushing it given the replacement parts, and that all the lume has been scrapped off the plots. I think a fair price on that would be closer to $1K less
     
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  10. kreyke May 25, 2017

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    Without the lume plots, it's really unattractive. I personally feel that ageing lume plots are one of the biggest attraction for vintage watches.
     
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  11. arvidrattlaas Jun 1, 2017

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    Hi again everyone. I have come across another watch and would appreciate your comments on this offer:

    145.022 -71
    Price: 5000 USD
    Pictures:
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    The seller states that this 145.022 -71 has the correct dot next to ninety bezel, stepped dial and original hands. No replacement parts that he knows of. Original 1171 bracelet in good condition. Serviced in 2016. No B/P, but an additional leather strap is included.

    He states that the price (5000 USD) is based on similar objects on Chrono24.

    I think the case looks sharp. But what about the rest? I obviously have to get pictures of the movement and case back, and I'll post them here when/if I get them.

    I'm no expert, but I think the price is a bit high.

    Do you guys have any comments on this offer?
     
  12. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Jun 1, 2017

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  13. BenBagbag Jun 1, 2017

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    +1 This is not in collector's condition and you are paying collector's price for the piece.
     
  14. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Jun 2, 2017

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    I'm thinking it's just below good with @$800 for the bracelet.

    Remember Speedmaster101 is head only no bracelet.
     
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  15. arvidrattlaas Jun 2, 2017

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    Thanks for the advice.
    Additional pictures: 44309_866e743ede1797af3770aecd0fe9fd4f.jpg View attachment 398050 44311_c3432dbdd5e4553f64997b147f87fb4b.jpg

    What do you guys think?

    Condition good + 800 for the bracelet = 4300 usd? Fair price?
     
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  16. Nathan1967 Jun 2, 2017

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    Have a look in the sales section here, our leading Speedmaster expert Spacefruit has a very nice Pre Moon Speedmaster for sale for a little more. If you have the money consider buying that one.

    All the best

    Nathan
     
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  17. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Jun 2, 2017

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    It's your money and you have to look at the hour marker at 4 o clock and the missing paint on the seconds sub dial hand.
     
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  18. Hattrick Jun 3, 2017

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    A wise member told me once "better to pay slightly more for the right example than pay less for the wrong one"
     
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  19. arvidrattlaas Jun 6, 2017

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    An additional photo now showing all of the hour markers:
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  20. arvidrattlaas Jun 7, 2017

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    Ok guys. Bear with me. New object:

    "Omega Speedmaster Professional 145.022 69 ST.
    220 bezel, stepped dials, hesalite and 1035 bracelet from 68.

    Just fully overhauled with new pushers and new hesalite glass. Got receipt and warranty for this work and it costed 950 USD. Watch only.

    Price: 5325 USD"
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