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Need Expert to buy a speedmaster stepped Dial

  1. JulienLeBreton

    JulienLeBreton Aug 4, 2013

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    Dear all,

    After buying a few month back my transition speedmaster.
    I came across a Dial that could help me restore my watch with the most important part: the dial.

    My watch:http://omegaforums.net/threads/transitional-pre-moon-landed-at-home.3701/

    And here is the dial: it's a stepped dial that was missing from mine, the seller told me it's for a 861 caliber...
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    My only concern, is that it looks suspectly good, but there is the circle paterns in the sub dials.
    So, Do you think it's legid, or been relumed?

    thank's for your advice guys!
     
  2. MSNWatch

    MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Aug 4, 2013

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    Looks legit and not relumed. These early 861 dials are a bit easier to find in nice shape than the 321 dials.
     
  3. JulienLeBreton

    JulienLeBreton Aug 4, 2013

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    I find it tricky and quite expensive at 530 euros!
    I'm still wandering if its not better to enjoy it as it is and buy something else...
    thank's for your point of view, I'm kind of relieved about the reluming.
    Thank's
     
  4. Spacefruit

    Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Aug 4, 2013

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    I find it very expensive indeed.

    Your watch is 2960xxxx and many in that range had dials that turned brown. The dial you show may be slightly brown? I cannot really tell from the photos, but the only justification for that price is if it is brown.
     
  5. watchyouwant

    watchyouwant ΩF Clairvoyant Aug 4, 2013

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    too expensive. kind regards. achim
     
  6. JulienLeBreton

    JulienLeBreton Aug 4, 2013

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    I totally agree expensive, but if I want to get it back to glory, I need a step dial.
    If someone has one in stock, I'm interested!
     
  7. JulienLeBreton

    JulienLeBreton Sep 27, 2013

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    Just to update the post,
    I found my dial thank's to the forum, a nice looking one, and 1 week later get another one not in good shape but for 10 dollars it was worth the price!
     
  8. Csfulham

    Csfulham Aug 21, 2019 1:41pm

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    Restarting this thread!

    I have a -69ST 32,xxx,xxx but I have a (probably late 70s) unstepped dial.

    Anyone know where the best place is to find a vintage stepped at a reasonable price?
     
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  9. Dan S

    Dan S Aug 21, 2019 2:15pm

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    Keep checking the sales forum for parts and accessories. And eBay.
     
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  10. padders

    padders Aug 21, 2019 2:34pm

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    What I think is surprising is that nobody above back in 2013 (inc the boss of Speedmasters) seemed to notice that the dial shown is a unicorn 321 service dial. It wasn't for 861s since those all had short indices and in any case Omega started fitting the current dial when servicing the 861s. No Speedmaster left the factory with a painted logo, long indices stepped Pro dial. I have one of these dials on a 145.012-68 and have seen another but they are pretty rare. They seemed to be in use as replacements for 321 Pro models in the early 1970s.
     
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  11. JulienLeBreton

    JulienLeBreton Aug 22, 2019 4:44am

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    Back in 2013, if I knew, I would have bought bezels, Dials by huge numbers...
    @Csfulham: I've got one in reserve, in bad shape.
    Try to find a good one, but if you are in desperate needs, I will look a photo of it
     
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  12. kov

    kov Aug 22, 2019 4:59am

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    Back then (2013) I think we weren't discussing about 321 service dials, yet. Today, it's so obvious. :thumbsup:
     
  13. Csfulham

    Csfulham Aug 22, 2019 5:28am

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    When I bought my first speedy (Mk2, 28,xxx,xxx) back in about 2003 I WISH I’d bought a ton of everything, but I guess: hindsight!!

    I want to replace the modern service dial on my 69ST so if you had pictures of the old one, I’d love to see them. I’m not really too worried about condition, as long as it’s not badly stained etc.

    Thanks!
     
  14. ndgal

    ndgal Aug 22, 2019 2:36pm

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    Funny how 6 years ago no one had mentioned to the OP that this dial had long hour markers and printed logo (no AML). = Not correct for restoring his Transitional Speedy...
     
  15. Csfulham

    Csfulham Aug 22, 2019 2:39pm

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    ... but correct for restoring my -69st!
     
  16. padders

    padders Aug 22, 2019 2:41pm

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    Err no it’s not. @ndgal didn’t I say this already?
     
  17. Csfulham

    Csfulham Aug 22, 2019 2:51pm

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    Ah you’re right, the hour lumes.
     
  18. ndgal

    ndgal Aug 22, 2019 2:57pm

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    Ha! You did. I was only reading through the 2013 comments...
     
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  19. JulienLeBreton

    JulienLeBreton Aug 22, 2019 5:29pm

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    A former watch seller in Paris, told me that in the 70's a lot of customer thought that if the watch could go to the moon, it can survive swimming in the ocean... A lot of speedmasters were serviced at that moment.
    And I think I've got one that has gone to the bottom of the ocean


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    Edited Aug 22, 2019 5:51pm
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  20. JulienLeBreton

    JulienLeBreton Aug 22, 2019 5:51pm

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    Edited Aug 23, 2019 12:55am