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  1. minutenrohr May 31, 2015

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    hi,
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    I found a navitimer 806 (1964) with this movement: rhodium plated, unusual signature, unusual balance cock.
    any thoughts?

    thank you all - h.u.
     
  2. nicolas07 May 31, 2015

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    Never seen something like this before...
     
  3. nicolas07 May 31, 2015

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    Never saw something like this before indeed.
    As you said, balance cock is unusual...
    What bother me the most is also the missing import code: should be WOG for such period, stamped on the balance bridge
     
  4. marturx May 31, 2015

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    What does it say under the balance? Venus 170?
     
  5. nicolas07 May 31, 2015

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    Should be 178 if correct...
     
  6. _Dracha_ May 31, 2015

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    strange ,
    I cant read what it says 170 or 175 or 178 ?
    also all Breitling movement mainplates (from that period) were signed with 'TJ' below the 17x model marker

    but I have never seen a rodium plated venus movement in a Navitimer , I am certain movement was replaced
     
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  7. _Dracha_ May 31, 2015

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  8. Eric_navi May 31, 2015

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    Are you sure it isn't the reflection? I've had quite a bit of fun photographing watch movements and making the parts look like different colors.
     
  9. _Dracha_ Jun 1, 2015

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    Hi Eric
    the normal colour is 'copper' , looking at the yellow paint on the 'Breitling LTD' there does not seem to be much colour shift ?
    and you'd be hard pressed to change a movement colour from 'copper' to 'rhodium' ? also the seller describes it as rhodium so I doubt very much its really another colour :)

    for comparison , the colour we all know from a Navitimer

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  10. Eric_navi Jun 1, 2015

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    Ah, yes, 100% correct... never seen this on a Navitimer.

    Here are some movements with similar engravings and Rhodium. None of these are Venus 178, and not commenting on the "correctness" of these pieces, but figured I would post them for comment. The first one is marked Venus 175 and comes from a Chronomat ref 808, appears to be the same bridge. the others are Top TIme

    http://www.farfo.com/menswatches/Page3/breitling_geneve_chronomat_808_217012.html
    upload_2015-5-31_21-12-34.png

    http://www.farfo.com/menswatches/Page1/breitling_top-time_vintage_square_chronograph.html

    upload_2015-5-31_21-13-56.png

    http://www.actimepieces.co.uk/watches-for-sale/stock-watches/wwom003/
    upload_2015-5-31_21-11-36.png
     
  11. minutenrohr Jun 1, 2015

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    Thank you all. i´m sure its a 178. And i don´t like the big/golden Breitling signature. The auction is mine, but i don´t want to fool anyone or use this forum to announce the auction. i´m only curious, what kind of mariage (?) this could be. I bought that navitimer last week from a friend and can return or swap it at any time. As mentioned in the auction text its from 1964 and the lugs are a bit polished, but the face is nice...
     
  12. minutenrohr Jun 1, 2015

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  13. _Dracha_ Jun 1, 2015

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    balance cock sig is correct , even for a navitimer from certain years, Breitling used various signature designs and this is one of them
    but the rhodium plating isnt correct for a navitimer

    have you been able to decipher which model number is on the mainplate (170,175 or 178) and is there a 'TJ' below it ?
     
  14. minutenrohr Jun 1, 2015

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    ...i hope this is better to look on:
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