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NAIAD Lock Caseback - Tolerance? (Follow-up)

  1. bama2141 Jul 30, 2019

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    I recently bought a new Seamaster Ceramic and Titanium watch which has the NAIAD style caseback. From what I’ve read, this is supposed to assure that the writing on the caseback aligns with the lugs or crown in a repeatable manner.

    Unfortunately, after reading this I discovered that mine was “close” but not accurately aligned. The METAS data says the watch passed the pressure testing and everything else is great, but now I’m concerned that something in amiss

    Is there an expected tolerance on the alignment? I’d guess mine is off by about 10 degrees. I could bring it in to a Boutique but I’d hate to lose the watch for weeks for something that’s really ok

    Any info would be appreciated. Also any info on how this lock functions would also be great. 210D7EBB-59DA-4466-AAB4-F65640A38D2D.jpeg
     
  2. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Jul 30, 2019

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    Are you sure that has the niad caseback? There is normally a symbol or it says niad. The website does not list it as having one.
     
  3. CJpickup57 Jul 30, 2019

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    @bama2141 I cannot find any important info pertaining to your question at Omega's website or even searching here. I found a bunch of articles and other forums talking about the system, but not it's technical specs. I found patent information about it (looks like you have to pay to see it though :thumbsdown:): https://patents.patsnap.com/v/US10073418-sub-assembly-of-external-parts-for-watch.html
     
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  4. bama2141 Jul 30, 2019

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  5. Evitzee Jul 30, 2019

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    It's probably ok pressure wise but it should line up exactly, that's how they are designed. Your's looks like it needs a little more CW rotation to fully seat the back. I'd probably lean to taking it back to the OB and have it checked.
     
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  6. AntonisCy Jul 30, 2019

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    Get it checked!
     
  7. MalaMD Jul 31, 2019

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    Definitely get it checked - I understood that the whole point of it was that it lined up perfectly every time.
     
  8. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Jul 31, 2019

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    Sort of like the bayonet fitting of a camera lens on a SLR. These case backs can go on in 3 different locations, all equally spaced, so if yours is only out by approx. 10 degrees, they have it at the right starting point, but just not rotated far enough. If you have a sticky ball you might be able to press and turn it to the fully rotated position. It should stop when it's fully rotated.
     
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  9. bama2141 Jul 31, 2019

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    Took everyone's advice and went to my local OB. First thought was to send the watch in to the service center, but that would take an estimated 6 to 8 weeks. Bummer.

    The OB then brought out two additional, new, examples of this model Seamaster with the NAIAD lock. One was misaligned identically to mine

    At that point I asked the OB to simply query the service center whether this was a problem or not. I provided a photo of my caseback to be sent. Hopefully I'll get a definitive response in a few days.
     
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  10. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Jul 31, 2019

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    Why not remove and reinstall the CB?
     
  11. bama2141 Jul 31, 2019

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    No tool at the OB. I tried Archer's suggestion with the sticky ball and no dice there.

    At this point I'm thinking that it's actually locked, but that the writing on the caseback (or the machining of the case) is slightly off. We'll see what info the service center comes back with.
     
  12. AntonisCy Jul 31, 2019

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    That is funny because the whole reason why NAIAD exists is because it is supposed to be perfectly aligned.
     
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  13. Omega-Q Jul 31, 2019

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    You did the right thing by asking the question at the OB. I had some minor issues with my new SMP & actually had to send it in to the service center, but they fixed all my issues. Unfortunately, I was without the watch for a few weeks, but ensuring that I had the watch that I wanted was worth it! Additionally, it identifies a problem for the larger Omega brand, and hopefully they will fix it. Consider it a service to others? :)
     
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