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  1. tomchi Feb 3, 2016

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    I posted this a few days ago by mistake on the modern Omega forum. I am reposting here, sorry for the repeat.
    I was looking for a part on Ofrei and came across a curious dial which is supposed to be for ref 176.0013. That surprised me, because... there is no 176.0013. It had day date Windows and 24h counter, which meant without a doubt that it was for a 1045. The dial did not have the typical grey bottom half that you can find on the 24h counter of 0012, 0015 and 0016. It was not a tv dial, because it was round, so 0014 was also out. It was not a Mark V, because it would have said so. It was not a prototype for Alaskas 1045 as far as I could tell... It also did not look like the proto recently sold at Christie's, the one with the red sweep second chrono hand in a cushion case. The Grail? Well, close, but upon closer examination, some small details indicated that this dial was made for something else... It had been used as a replacement dial on some Grails, but you can see it doesn't quite fit.
    That was strange. I googled the reference and found nothing of value. Except, of course, a post by Chuck. Damn, don't we miss this guy... 176.0013 seemed to have been a prototype, Chuck didn't know what it looked like but guessed it could have been using a pilot or seamaster case.
    Anybody with info about that? A picture of a mysterious prototype stolen from the X-files?
    Mudler? Scully? Omega luminaries? Please help close the loop and find out what 176.0013 really was...
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  2. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Feb 3, 2016

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    Ref. 176.0013 pulls up a set of hands and a dial for a Cal. 1045. Title of the main page for this reference is "CS STRUCTURE, DIAL SMOCKED-COLOURED LUM | 4ST1760013R"

    Dial is 064PP1868500, and it is round and exactly as you describe it. If I use the dial and search what watches it was used in on the system, it says a 1760012.

    Cheers, Al
     
  3. tomchi Feb 3, 2016

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    Al, it seems indeed to be used now as a service dial for 1045. Is it common to have a whole ref just for a service dial? I find it strange that 176.0013 was left unused at the time, leaving a gap between the mark 4.5 and the tv dial. What do you think of Chuck's prototype theory?
     
  4. rogart ray it again, Ram. Feb 3, 2016

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    Search the internet and find this on Ebay . http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131494115746Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network
    Maybe the fingerprints on the back would give some more info?
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  5. tomchi Feb 3, 2016

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    That's it rogart, sort of a clean Grail design for Mark 4.5.
     
  6. tomchi Feb 3, 2016

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    Al, is there anything special about the hands? Are they thinner Grail type like MarkV?
     
  7. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Feb 3, 2016

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    Well it's not just for the dial, as hands are also listed. But yes it's unusual. I have no opinion on theories...never read these theories.
     
  8. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Feb 3, 2016

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    Hands are black at the base for the hour and minute hands.