I hope that you guys will enjoy my review of the new TAG Heuer Carrera Calibre 36 Flyback chronograph --

http://www.onthedash.com/thoughts/carrera-calibre-36-flyback-full-review/

A legitimate descendant of the Zenith El Primeros!!

Thanks to everyone on this forum who helped with information about the El Primero, inspiration, ideas, etc.!!

Jeff

 

Do you imply that some Tag Carrera has Seiko based movement?

 

........... well I can understand Seiko is one of the best movement maker outside Swiss. That's no question. With Swatch monopoly who else you can turn into?

 

I can't understand why they don't use Zenith movements exclusively. After all, they are both LVMH companies and why on earth would you want to pay your competition for parts when you own another company who make a similar product?

 

Licensing the Seiko technology for the Calibre 1887 allowed TAG Heuer to introduce its new line of Carreras (back in 2010) a couple of years earlier, and for a couple of thousand dollars less, than if TAG Heuer had built the movement from the ground up. These Seiko movements were top quality; TAG Heuer further enhanced them. Thrilled to have bought my Carrera Cal 1887 for $3,000 in 2010, rather than paying $5,000 for in-house movement in 2012. Bravo to TAG Heuer for taking this approach!! The world is flat, right . . . and applause for overcoming the watch guys' bias against Japanese watches.

El Primero (TAG Heuer Calibre 36) will always sell at a much higher price point than the Calibre 1887.

Excellent discussion, guys!!

 

Seiko build few movement that on par with ETA in term of quality IIRC. The Grand Seiko movement definitely surpass them.

 

TAG was busted by watch forum members trying to claim the Seiko movement as their own in-house caliber. Pretty embarrassing if you ask me. I would have had no problem if they said from the get go that it was a Seiko based movement, but the Swiss are whacked when it comes to that kind of stuff.

So what's up with TAG's in-house projects? Are they still vaporware?

 

With all due respect, this is complete ignorance. I visited the TAG Heuer factory a few months ago, and saw production of the Calibre 1887 movements and Carreras (where they are producing over 1,000 watches per week), as well as the Haute Horlogere department (where they produce a few dozen watches per year). Perhaps you would stand there and tell the workers that they are involved in "vaporware" . . . that's not what I saw.

 

Why does everyone think prefacing an insult with "with all due respect" makes it acceptable? It was a simple and direct question. I've owned a few Heuers over the years (pre- and post-TAG) and have no issue with the brand. How about an update on which of the concepts (like the belt drive Monaco) are currently in production and available to the public?

 

Are you interested in "in-house" haute horlogere projects (V4, Mikrograph, Mikrotimer, etc.) or "in-house" movements (Cal 1887, Cal 1888, etc.)? And do we count the Calibre 36 as an "in house" movement, even though it comes from corporate affiliate, Zenith?

There are lots of great articles on all these topics; if you can tell me which you are interested in, I can provide some links.

 

Cool. I'm curious about the haute horologere calibers.