My new Omega has arrived.

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Hi every body, I just found this site today and think I will enjoy trying to learn a bit more about these great watches.
I've had an old '1960's' Omega, (no name e.g.Seamaster,Geneve, De Ville etc) for about 20 years and thought it time to buy another. Well I've been looking on ebay for quite a while, and finally took the plunge. A 1973 De Ville black face manual wind, that arrived today. It's in very good condition, 111.0107 Cal 620.
Would like some well informed advice, I don't really know what I'm looking at, but it looks nice to me. Seller assured me all parts etc are genuine originals. Have I made a mistake? Please see photos -
 
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Welcome to the forum. I hope you stick around! Are the lugs (esp 11:00) bent? Maybe it’s just the photo, or the springbars are bent, or the older strap isn’t fitting right. Can u some pics of your other watch too 😀
 
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Welcome to the forum. I hope you stick around! Are the lugs (esp 11:00) bent? Maybe it’s just the photo, or the springbars are bent, or the older strap isn’t fitting right. Can u some pics of your other watch too 😀
Yes you are right the lug at 11 is bent, and maybe the one at 5 slightly. I must admit I'd not noticed. Could they be fixed?
My other watch is below, could someone give me an idea of what it is? I've never seen one on line exactly as this.
 
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I keep @JwRosenthal on retainer for bent lug questions 😜. Certainly best to get it fixed, unless you want to accidentally donate your watch.
 
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I keep @JwRosenthal on retainer for bent lug questions 😜. Certainly best to get it fixed, unless you want to accidentally donate your watch.
Thanks Dave,as soon as we're back to something like 'normality' I'll put that in hand.
 
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The 111.0107 seems correct based on the picture in the omega website. The crown has been changed as it should have a cabochon (onyx I presume), but most of the cabochon crowns do not survive the ravages of time. No big deal here, and the new crown does not look out of place.

Now, not sure about the reference of the 2nd one. Omega produced a lot of different watches, and a single reference could have different dials back in these days. The reference only defined the case shape, the caliber inside it, and - I think - the collection if any. If you're lucky someone will recognize this model. Or you will have to open the case and read the number inside.
But one thing for sure is that 1/ it had a living 2/ it was redialed, and it was not nicely done :/ the markers are not aligned with the indices and even overlap with the Omega logo. Personnally I would try to find the reference and find a dial in good shape
 
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The 111.0107 seems correct based on the picture in the omega website. The crown has been changed as it should have a cabochon (onyx I presume), but most of the cabochon crowns do not survive the ravages of time. No big deal here, and the new crown does not look out of place.

Now, not sure about the reference of the 2nd one. Omega produced a lot of different watches, and a single reference could have different dials back in these days. The reference only defined the case shape, the caliber inside it, and - I think - the collection if any. If you're lucky someone will recognize this model. Or you will have to open the case and read the number inside.
But one thing for sure is that 1/ it had a living 2/ it was redialed, and it was not nicely done :/ the markers are not aligned with the indices and even overlap with the Omega logo. Personnally I would try to find the reference and find a dial in good shape
Thanks a lot for all that info, much appreciated. I don't want to open the watch up as it already has damage where someone else has had a go. Hopefully I'll find someone (who knows what they're doing) to do that for me and get the relevant reference information.
 
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You can try with a rubber ball: it will open if not screwed too tightly, and no risk of scratching it. Bringing it to a watchmaker can also be a solution 😉
 
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Yes you are right the lug at 11 is bent, and maybe the one at 5 slightly. I must admit I'd not noticed. Could they be fixed?
My other watch is below, could someone give me an idea of what it is? I've never seen one on line exactly as this.

Your second one is a ref. 2639 with a refinished dial, which is probably why you haven't found similar ones 😀
 
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Your second one is a ref. 2639 with a refinished dial, which is probably why you haven't found similar ones 😀
Thank you very much, very helpful and much appreciated.
 
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The 111.0107 seems correct based on the picture in the omega website. The crown has been changed as it should have a cabochon (onyx I presume), but most of the cabochon crowns do not survive the ravages of time. No big deal here, and the new crown does not look out of place.

Now, not sure about the reference of the 2nd one. Omega produced a lot of different watches, and a single reference could have different dials back in these days. The reference only defined the case shape, the caliber inside it, and - I think - the collection if any. If you're lucky someone will recognize this model. Or you will have to open the case and read the number inside.
But one thing for sure is that 1/ it had a living 2/ it was redialed, and it was not nicely done :/ the markers are not aligned with the indices and even overlap with the Omega logo. Personnally I would try to find the reference and find a dial in good shape
Have you any idea where I might find a genuine ref 2639 dial in good condition?
 
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Have you any idea where I might find a genuine ref 2639 dial in good condition?

I wouldn't throw money at trying to improve the second watch. The hands are the wrong style so they'd need changing, plus the case has been polished and the back has some nasty dents. Even if you managed to source a decent dial and hands, which would require dedication and luck, you wouldn't end up with that brilliant a watch and you'd never recoup the invetment. I'd keep that one as a daily beater, put it down to tuition fees and take your time to research and eventually buy something really nice in original condition.
 
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Have you any idea where I might find a genuine ref 2639 dial in good condition?
Nope 😁 You can try to look for spare part on ebay, chrono24, online part sellers... but you will also need some luck and spent a lot of time searching for it. First because most of the people do not know for which case the dial was for. At best they know the caliber, and when they are "kind" enough, they also specify the diameter. So, do not expect to find a genuine 2639 dial...

Just in case, your dial (which seems uncommon based on google image search ^^) should look like this : https://www.watchpatrol.net/listing/805969/
You can also see what the hands should be.

My idea was more to know the caliber ref then to find one "good enough" that matches it to improve the look (you will also need the diameter of your dial) . Of course, as @Edward53 said, do not expect it to be a good investment. It is something you do for yourself.
Another possibility is to find someone that will be able to restore the dial better (I never tried to ask for a redial so do not ask me to recommend names) but it is not so easy to find a good one and from what I heard, expect it to cost at least 200€. Even less a good investment of money, but feasible.
 
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I wouldn't throw money at trying to improve the second watch. The hands are the wrong style so they'd need changing, plus the case has been polished and the back has some nasty dents. Even if you managed to source a decent dial and hands, which would require dedication and luck, you wouldn't end up with that brilliant a watch and you'd never recoup the invetment. I'd keep that one as a daily beater, put it down to tuition fees and take your time to research and eventually buy something really nice in original condition.
Thanks Edward, I think what you're saying makes sense, as you say 'tuition fees', but I've had 20 years use out of it so not a complete loss.
 
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Nope 😁 You can try to look for spare part on ebay, chrono24, online part sellers... but you will also need some luck and spent a lot of time searching for it. First because most of the people do not know for which case the dial was for. At best they know the caliber, and when they are "kind" enough, they also specify the diameter. So, do not expect to find a genuine 2639 dial...

Just in case, your dial (which seems uncommon based on google image search ^^) should look like this : https://www.watchpatrol.net/listing/805969/
You can also see what the hands should be.

My idea was more to know the caliber ref then to find one "good enough" that matches it to improve the look (you will also need the diameter of your dial) . Of course, as @Edward53 said, do not expect it to be a good investment. It is something you do for yourself.
Another possibility is to find someone that will be able to restore the dial better (I never tried to ask for a redial so do not ask me to recommend names) but it is not so easy to find a good one and from what I heard, expect it to cost at least 200€. Even less a good investment of money, but feasible.
Thanks for all the information. I think I will take Edward's advice.