My IBM Quarter Century Rolex Datejust

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Just wanted to share my IBM Quarter Century Rolex Datejust 16220. This specific watch was issued to a John A Noid and I have to believe it was stored away from that moment until it was ultimately sold by his family. It was sold as a complete set and was essentially a time capsule from the 90's, which was two years after I was born. Honestly, the entire presentation looked as if Rolex had just sold this piece.



*Don't mind the bracelet changing marks on the back of the lugs. I bought this watch to wear and enjoy 馃榾

It wasn't until much later that I realized the papers included with my watch weren't for my watch but for another 16220 (possible IBM as well) Datejust. With the help of another member, we looked into every IBM Datejust we could find, and found a plausible reason why my papers were incorrect. Every IBM Datejust that we could find, that was pictured with their papers, had the name Michael C Fina stamped on them, which was a jeweler in NY. It's possible the jeweler put the papers in the incorrect box from the get go, but we had a feeling this was accidentally done by IBM when they received and inspected the watch(es). Its all speculation but both of us were confident these papers have lived their entire life with my watch. Like the two brochures, the papers had crisp folded edges that looked to have never been opened. It's a bummer the papers didn't match but to me, these are part of the watch and I really don't mind it.


Initially, I created this thread hoping to reunite these papers with the correct watch, but I went into that experiment knowing it was rather fanciful and unlikely to be successful. Too many variable stacked up against me. I couldn't bring myself to just bin the papers and I curious enough to give it a try. But I guess, if you know someone that has an IBM Quarter Century watch from the 90's that's missing the papers, maybe I have them 馃槈 Until then, they will remain with the watch. Anyways, I've edited this thread to share this watch and it's journey 馃榾
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Can鈥檛 help you, but what a great find. Certainly adds some perspective to the recent thread about gift watches from employers.
 
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The post is a little confusing, but you are looking for someone who has the watch matching the papers, not vice versa? And what exactly is the serial number, I don't even see a complete number on the papers? How will someone even know if they have the right watch?

So possibly looking for someone who worked at the Yorktown facility starting in 1965. Most likely in their 80s at this time. With a watch received in 1990 with an unknown serial number. 馃槙
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The post is a little confusing
Sorry, sometimes things make more sense in my head than they do when I put it out there for everyone to see/hear. It was an impossible idea/experiment and I have since edited the thread to just share the watch.
 
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Just wanted to share my IBM Quarter Century Rolex Datejust 16220. This specific watch was issued to a John A Noid and I have to believe it was stored away from that moment until it was ultimately sold by his family. It was sold as a complete set and was essentially a time capsule from the 90's, which was two years after I was born. Honestly, the entire presentation looked as if Rolex had just sold this piece.



*Don't mind the bracelet changing marks on the back of the lugs. I bought this watch to wear and enjoy 馃榾

It wasn't until much later that I realized the papers included with my watch weren't for my watch but for another 16220 (possible IBM as well) Datejust. With the help of another member, we looked into every IBM Datejust we could find, and found a plausible reason why my papers were incorrect. Every IBM Datejust that we could find, that was pictured with their papers, had the name Michael C Fina stamped on them, which was a jeweler in NY. It's possible the jeweler put the papers in the incorrect box from the get go, but we had a feeling this was accidentally done by IBM when they received and inspected the watch(es). Its all speculation but both of us were confident these papers have lived their entire life with my watch. Like the two brochures, the papers had crisp folded edges that looked to have never been opened. It's a bummer the papers didn't match but to me, these are part of the watch and I really don't mind it.


Initially, I created this thread hoping to reunite these papers with the correct watch, but I went into that experiment knowing it was rather fanciful and unlikely to be successful. Too many variable stacked up against me. I couldn't bring myself to just bin the papers and I curious enough to give it a try. But I guess, if you know someone that has an IBM Quarter Century watch from the 90's that's missing the papers, maybe I have them 馃槈 Until then, they will remain with the watch. Anyways, I've edited this thread to share this watch and it's journey 馃榾
IBM presented a choice from a variety of mementos to employees with 25 years of service. They were presented at individual luncheons in an executive dining room with several guests invited by the recipient. Given that there can鈥檛 have been very many people named John Noid employed IBM, I will guess that I knew this one. I knew, liked, and greatly respected John Noid. He was probably among the 10 smartest people I ever met. He further influenced my final IBM transfer to Austin, Texas where I retired in 1992. I was privileged to attend John鈥檚 Quarter Century Club Luncheon and witnessed the presentation of that watch. When I am reminded of clever solutions and work well done I am inevitably also reminded of John. It has been over 30 years since I last saw John but, presuming that the presence of this watch indicates that John has passed, I am suddenly struck by that empty spot discovered when someone who mattered passes.

I envy you your purchase.
 
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@Texcess, I never made it to the quater century with IBM. I joined in '94. The site where I worked was sold off to mangement in '94. Whilst it was no longer IBM, we still made product for IBM, everyone was ex-IBM and all our practices and proceedures were IBM. I rejoined big Blue at another site in '98 and finally left in 2014.
So I either clocked up 16 years, or 20 depending on how you look at it.

The company changed massively under Lou Gerstner, In the early 90's you may have been given a Rolex for a quarter century gift, but by the 2000's that had evolved into a pub lunch for you and a select group of your colleagues. The defined beneift pension went too, in preference to a money purchase plan.

There was a joke going around about the time that I left. An IBMer was stopped by a highwayman who demands "Your Money or your life!", so the IBMer showed the highwayman his badge, the highwayman apologised and left. The badge being proof that the IBMer has no money & no life!

EDIT Rookie mistake. I failed to notice that someone has dragged up a year old thread. Sorry chaps.
 
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@Texcess, I never made it to the quater century with IBM. I joined in '94. The site where I worked was sold off to mangement in '94. Whilst it was no longer IBM, we still made product for IBM, everyone was ex-IBM and all our practices and proceedures were IBM. I rejoined big Blue at another site in '98 and finally left in 2014.
So I either clocked up 16 years, or 20 depending on how you look at it.

The company changed massively under Lou Gerstner, In the early 90's you may have been given a Rolex for a quarter century gift, but by the 2000's that had evolved into a pub lunch for you and a select group of your colleagues. The defined beneift pension went too, in preference to a money purchase plan.

There was a joke going around about the time that I left. An IBMer was stopped by a highwayman who demands "Your Money or your life!", so the IBMer showed the highwayman his badge, the highwayman apologised and left. The badge being proof that the IBMer has no money & no life!

EDIT Rookie mistake. I failed to notice that someone has dragged up a year old thread. Sorry chaps.

I worked there from 2001 until 2012, my 10 year employment gift was to choose from the standard booklet of cheap $25 items. I picked the knife set. Whoopie. lol They really didn't value employees at that point anymore, we were just human capital.