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  1. kovar811 Dec 23, 2018

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    New member, found this forum and I am trying to obtain some information regarding the attached watch. My father says he purchased this watch in 1954 while stationed in Germany. He gave it to me a number of years ago and I had it serviced which included replacing the hands and crown. The watch still keeps excellent time, however I was advised to only wear it occasionally due to it's age and limited availability of parts. I would like to return the watch to as close to original as possible; therefore, curious if the parts (i.e. hands and crown) are still available.

    Thanks for any information you can provide and please advise what additional information you require to assist.
     
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  2. ChrisN Dec 23, 2018

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    It looks a nice watch and is probably a bumper automatic if it's from '54 - do you feel it "bumping" when you're wearing it? I'm sure someone on here will have a comment to narrow the model reference a little.

    You should be able to get a more appropriate crown (possibly a bowler hat style for this) and better length hands than you have. First thing you need to do is have a watchmaker open the watch and get the serial number, movement calibre and case reference. Then he/she can source a better crown and hands plus fit them.

    Parts availability is not brilliant for these but, I'd have no issues with wearing it every day (and have one bumper I wear a coupe of times a week). Have it serviced every five years or so and that will minimize the possibility of it needing parts.

    Good luck, Chris
     
  3. padders Oooo subtitles! Dec 23, 2018

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    I think it could well be a slightly later full rotor 2846 using the 500 or 501 movement. The dial looks exactly like mine. I have deja vu though since last time I commented on a fat lug I was proven wrong!

    The hands on yours look OK, though all are too long. The cloverleaf crown is AFAIK still available but may well have a slightly later logo, which to my mind isn't important.

    My 2846, solid 18K and reassuringly heavy.

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  4. ChrisN Dec 23, 2018

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    You may very well be right - I was umming and ahhing myself as it looks a bit later than '54. Seamaster font looks identical:thumbsup:

    Cheers, Chris
     
  5. kovar811 Dec 23, 2018

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    Thanks for the quick replies. It is a "bumper" as you can feel it when the watch is moved from side to side. Curious, any recommendations for a jeweler in the Houston, Texas area that might work on these?
     
  6. padders Oooo subtitles! Dec 23, 2018

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    Are you sure? The spinning rotor can also give a bump like feel, particularly if the bearing is worn! No idea about a Texas repairer I am afraid.
     
  7. ChrisN Dec 23, 2018

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    You want a watchmaker and not a jeweller. All the jeweller will do is pass on half the money you pay to the watchmaker they choose...

    Search on here for watchmakers in Texas but choose your person based on their ability and experience with vintage, not location. A lot of people now do servicing by mail - I'm in UK and receive watches from many countries, including (which may seem odd) Switzerland. Someone on here should recommend a watchmaker in the States or possibly Texas.

    Cheers, Chris
     
  8. ConElPueblo Dec 23, 2018

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    Most bumper Seamasters have screw down casebacks, but the ref. 2767 hasn't - that's probably what you've got there :)

    I had one a while ago in gold cap, a lovely watch indeed!

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    The 2767 is 34.5mm in diameter, if it is any bigger it's a "jumbo" version (don't know the reference number of that, if there indeed is one!).
     
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  9. padders Oooo subtitles! Dec 23, 2018

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    Could well be, the OP watch has the non coat hanger S but then so does the pic on the Omega Vintage Database:

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    @ConElPueblo, Troels what is the story with the different S designs, is the coat hanger a later or earlier thing? Or did all types coexist? My 2577 S is different again.
     
  10. ConElPueblo Dec 23, 2018

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    I guess it is at least partly down to different dial manufacturers, but as a redial "tell" I can think of better clues - I have stopped caring about it :)

    In this case what is interesting, IMO, is that it is a bumper Seamaster in the "classic" 50s style, but with a snapback which is unusual. The more commonly encountered 2577 Seamaster has a screw down back, whilst the later full-rotor 2848 has a snapback.
     
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  11. ChrisN Dec 23, 2018

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    I doubt anyone knows what's happening with these fonts. We could build a database if someone fancies it...

    Here was my contribution a while ago and the ones above from the OP and @padders seems like my 13.8 million serial watch.

    Cheers, Chris
     
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  12. kovar811 Dec 23, 2018

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    Interesting information and to "padders" the watch is definitely a bumper. Therefore, if the watch is a ref. 2767 the proper crown would be a clover crown part number 069ST42023, correct? And how about the proper hands?
     
  13. Snowman Dec 23, 2018

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    It’s could be a 2767-1 like the one I have
    That has the snap on case back
    Already discussed
    The one I have dates to 1954 so should be ok for crown and hands
     
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  14. kovar811 Dec 23, 2018

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    Curious, is the back of the case something I can remove and reinstall without special tools? If not, what tool do I need to acquire to remove and reinstall the case back?

    Thanks
     
  15. micampe Dec 23, 2018

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    As I have both right here I can compare the case backs side by side, and I think this is a bumper, so probably a 2767. The difference is in the width of the middle section of the back: the full rotor 2846 has a wider band, the bumper has a narrow one like this.

    But then it looks like @Snowman 2767-1 case back is very different from mine.

    2767-5 on the left, 2846-11 on the right:
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  16. Snowman Dec 23, 2018

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    Take it to a competent watchmaker to remove the case back
     
  17. kovar811 Jan 11, 2019

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    Took the watch to a watchmaker today and confirmed the watch is a 2767 with a 354 movement. Sorry for the poor quality pictures. Appreciate any additional information you can provide.

    Thanks in advance.
     
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