Movement technology and long term rate stability

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By way of preamble, the technology that has been incorporated into movements in the last two decades or so is exceptional. Omega has coaxial with a silicon balance spring and alloys for megnetism, Rolex has particular technologies, Seiko (Grand Seiko) has a new escapement and JLC has made improvements to reduce stress on the movement and increase power reserve. It is clear that stability of rate and positional variation have reduced dramatically by just reading the threads here. I had an omega 9300 that was about 3 seconds a day regardless of power reserve, position (whether I wore it or not). I also have a JLC Master Geographic from the 1990s that I have never serviced (I don't know the history) and it is also about 2 to 3 seconds a day although there appears to be more isochronism. I guess that one could argue that a range of different factors went into those differences, apart from technology, there is design and finish, to name some.

Manufacturers provide a performance number and guarantee for number of years. I actually don't know the guarantee period and whether the manufacturers guarantee stability of rate during that period of time. If we assume that they do do that - would that provide some evidence of how they expect the timepiece to perform. However, if we leave that aside, without looking at stability of rate over time and by position, how can someone evaluate how different technologies incorporated within a movement impact long term performance?

This is my long winded way of asking should I sell everything and purchase the new JLC master control, the new Grand Seiko or an Omega Railmaster?
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Keep in mind that these "new technologies" are only in one area of the movement, and the rest of the watch is still subject to the same wear as the "old technology" watches are. You didn't define what long term means in your questions, but to me this is like the claims made by companies who produce a moon phase that will be accurate for hundreds of years - exciting but it still needs a service every 5-10 years...

So to answer your short version of the question, if you like the JLC, GS, and Railmaster more than what you own now, go ahead and what you have now and buy those.
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@Archer - that is a good point. I think long term is anywhere over around 5 years. I can see why JLC stuck to reducing the amount of stress on the movement rather than creating a new escapement.
 
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However, if we leave that aside, without looking at stability of rate over time and by position, how can someone evaluate how different technologies incorporated within a movement impact long term performance?

Call me paranoid (I should make this my custom avatar test), but I think all those new nifty sounding technologies impact only marginally "long term performance", whatever that is. They have, however, a tremendous impact on marketing image, parts costs, availability (or restriction) of these parts and on your freedom to choose a watchmaker able to repair your watch. Meaning that future maintenance (or lack thereof) will be squarely in the hands of the company which sold you the watch. I firmly believe for example that the coaxial escapement is a cool thing... for Omega SA mostly, nice marketing trick and it will ensure they have a steady flow of cash from maintenance. For you? Well... it works nicely but not really better than a properly constructed and regulated classic escapement. Costs are higher also. Same thing for the new GS escapement and the Spring drive.

With that in mind, as Archer said buy what you like and can afford, maybe ask questions beforehand about future maintenance costs and procedures, and don't think that all those innovations are really useful to you. The industry knows how to make accurate and tough enough movements on an industrial scale since the 1960s (at least) anyway.
 
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This is my long winded way of asking should I sell everything and purchase the new JLC master control, the new Grand Seiko or an Omega Railmaster?

The manufacturer's claimed "long term rate stability" is very far down my list when deciding what watch to buy. A few seconds per day doesn't matter to me.
 
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My opinion (like buttholes, everyone has one), is that any "accuracy" in a mechanical watch is a combination of two things: how well was it manufactured, and how skilled is the lady who adjusted and regulated it?

Using my local watchmaker as an example, he warns me when a watch isn't going to keep time how I would perfer, because it wasn't made to.

One of my watches is a 1914 Ingersoll wrist watch, and rate in positions is horrible. But I have it set to where it'll keep time 15 seconds a day or better on my wrist, and that ain't bad.

I've had watches that weren't chronometers still keep time within whichever spec you like. Another watchmaker I know adjusted and regulated a Vostok Amphibian to within 4 seconds day or better in all positions.

Now to get into the long term. One of my personal motivators for getting a watch serviced, it doesn't keep time like it did previously. Whether that takes a year or a decade, since I rotate the watches, isn't significant. But a watch that was a consistent +2 is now a consisten -3, means service to me. And when the watchmaker is done, that same watch might be +3 instead.

Lots of factors to consider.
 
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Keep in mind that these "new technologies" are only in one area of the movement, and the rest of the watch is still subject to the same wear as the "old technology" watches are. You didn't define what long term means in your questions, but to me this is like the claims made by companies who produce a moon phase that will be accurate for hundreds of years - exciting but it still needs a service every 5-10 years...

Dammit. I just paid a premium for a Martin Braun Selene because the moonphase is accurate for 122 years! (OK, I didn't buy one, but I always liked that model, especially with the big Gibeon meteorite dial)
 
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I recently had my 1947 Eterna bumper serviced by @ChrisN and he had told me I'd be pleased with it when I got it back. When it arrived I threw it on the ole timegrapher to see what this old watch was capable of and was floored. DU it was running at -0 and then across DD, PU, PD, PL and PR the most it was off was by -2 and I forget which position that was in. So I do not think that modern watches have a monopoly on accuracy and/or accuracy over any given period of time. In the past many companies made excellent watches that have held up over the years while others, like @SkunkPrince 's Ingersoll, were just cheaper mass produced watches that were never meant to be accurate.